Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[ImperfectPixie]

Unnecessary fact check. Lol

Pretty much. But at least it's proof to those who claim CNN is just as bad as FOX that they ARE checking.

 

[Andrew C]

Pretty much. But at least it's proof to those who claim CNN is just as bad as FOX that they ARE checking.

It’s proof they are bozos. Or whoever decided to do the fact check at least.

 

[danlb_2000]

Someone correct m e if I'm wrong, but I believe it is not in the federal government's right to mandate this sort of thing, BUT it is legal for private companies and local government entities to implement such rules.

The federal government could probably create an official vaccine ID, but outside of limited places could not require businesses to use them.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

It’s proof they are bozos. Or whoever decided to do the fact check at least.

Technically, they're right. The vaccines aren't a guarantee of anything.

 

[danlb_2000]

Pretty much. But at least it's proof to those who claim CNN is just as bad as FOX that they ARE checking.

Yeah, I thought CNN only said bad things about the last guy.

 

[Andrew C]

Technically, they're right. The vaccines aren't a guarantee of anything.

It’s an unhelpful and meaningless “ACKSSHULLLLYYYY”

 

[danlb_2000]

It’s proof they are bozos. Or whoever decided to do the fact check at least.

They are bozos for calling out the president for making a false statement?

 

[Andrew C]

They are bozos for calling out the president for making a false statement?

I can’t believe I am the one defending the current president.

 

[CJR]

The states where it would be easiest to do are probably also the ones that least need it.

The thing is, people who are not in those state's population will want to travel there and do tourist attractions.

Floridians commonly travel to the northeast (New York, PA, Boston, and DC), a lot also visit Las Vegas and Southern California. While Florida refuses to implement a system, if other places did, I think it would have an impact, just not in their own numbers as much.

If other countries like The Bahamas and Mexico required the vaccine, that too could make an impact.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Thankful even more for our Canadian health leaders decision to extend the interval to allow more first doses and now have us all getting our second doses just in time for Delta.

Hopefully this means our higher antibody response will result in Canada having even better results.

 

[KrzyKtty]

I know someone from Canada who got The first shot from Pfizer in the second shop from moderna. Wonder how that's going to affect things.?

 

[danlb_2000]

It's interesting that Florida is seeing about the same rate of case increase as last summer, just a month or so later. Deaths are still low, but they lag the cases by 2 to 3 weeks.

 

[KrzyKtty]

It's interesting that Florida is seeing about the same rate of case increase as last summer, just a month or so later. Deaths are still low, but they lag the cases by 2 to 3 weeks.

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Just curious; where did that chart come from? I have a hard time finding them sometimes. I found this one from the CDC, but it is a bit different from that one.

I am curious for comparative data.

 

[danlb_2000]

Just curious; where did that chart come from? I have a hard time finding them sometimes. I found this one from the CDC, but it is a bit different from that one.

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I am curious for comparative data.

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[GoofGoof]

Some potentially good news on the vaccine pace:

Encouragingly, Zients said the five states that have experienced the most significant rise in infections — Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Nevada and Missouri — all also saw vaccination rates beat the national average for a second week in a row. But because immunity takes two weeks to develop, and the Delta variant spreads so rapidly, the benefits of the increased uptake of vaccinations may not be evident right away.

Florida, Missouri and Texas now account for 40% of new coronavirus cases in U.S.

Just three states are now driving the pandemic in the United States, as the divide between vaccinated and unvaccinated regions of the country becomes ever more stark, as the more transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus spreads.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Trauma]

Some potentially good news on the vaccine pace:

Encouragingly, Zients said the five states that have experienced the most significant rise in infections — Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Nevada and Missouri — all also saw vaccination rates beat the national average for a second week in a row. But because immunity takes two weeks to develop, and the Delta variant spreads so rapidly, the benefits of the increased uptake of vaccinations may not be evident right away.

Florida, Missouri and Texas now account for 40% of new coronavirus cases in U.S.

Just three states are now driving the pandemic in the United States, as the divide between vaccinated and unvaccinated regions of the country becomes ever more stark, as the more transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus spreads.

www.yahoo.com

So you can say it’s scaring the pixie dust out of them?

 

[Disney Analyst]

So you can say it’s scaring the pixie dust out of them?

I hope it is. Complacency allows the virus to spread.

 

[GoofGoof]

So you can say it’s scaring the pixie dust out of them?

Who knows….maybe. Here‘s my take: we are at 69% of adults who have taken at least 1 shot. In most recent polling there are still around 75-80% of people polled who say they have either gotten the vaccine or will eventually get it. So that means outside of the 20-25% who say they will never get the vaccine no matter what there are roughly 6%+ of adults who still plan to go in. I am speculating that the increase in vaccination rate in these states is probably mostly people in that 6% group as opposed to the never vaxxers changing their minds. People who were planning to go in at some point just got a fire lit under their rear ends . Everyone who goes in and gets a shot is one person closer to being done so it’s a positive that is coming out of this latest increase in cases.

 

[carolina_yankee]

The federal government could probably create an official vaccine ID, but outside of limited places could not require businesses to use them.

I really don’t think the federal government will go down that route. There are quite likely logistical reasons why this would be hard to implement reliably nation-wide (NJ can’t even find my vaccine record for their digital vaccine card app). There may also be legal reasons why it can’t be enacted nationwide, or at least for non-federal oversight. Also, in our polarized times, it would likely lead to more division and hostile pushback than less. Heck, I can even see a “Mark if the Beast” pushback. They are going to have to find the right carrot/stick approach, instead.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Very good thread