Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Flugell]

These are the numbers I keep focusing on also, as long as the hospitalizations and deaths don’t start shooting up again I don’t really care what the case numbers are.

I agree, though still care what the case numbers are because the lower they are the lower the potential for further spread!

 

[DC0703]

Here’s a good detailed explanation of why we should not just “shrug off” what’s happening in the UK, because when you break down the numbers, it tells a different story. Of note, this thread states that the UK has actually fully vaxx’d more people than the US, yet their Delta #s (both caseload and hospitalizations) are growing.

This is an interesting series of tweets, though it does miss one encouraging point for the U.S. - the UK is largely inoculated with Astrazeneca, which to date has had less efficacy overall, and the U.S. with Pfizer/Moderna, which has been higher. His general point that the numbers will go up in the U.S. is true, especially in areas with low vaccination rates, but the difference in vaccine could blunt some of the impact.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

This is an interesting series of tweets, though it does miss one encouraging point for the U.S. - the UK is largely inoculated with Astrazeneca, which to date has had less efficacy overall, and the U.S. with Pfizer/Moderna, which has been higher.

The UK is using Pfizer and Moderna as well. Not sure of the numbers but I’m pretty sure they started with Pfizer first.

 

[Flugell]

The AstraZeneca vaccine is very effective and Moderna and Pfizer are available to the under 40’s.
Please stop being so negative about Astra Zeneca.

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant

New analysis by PHE shows for the first time that 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective against hospitalisation from the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant.

www.gov.uk

 

[Trauma]

This is getting silly at this point. People still trying to bang the doom and gloom drum and think we should still be masking. It is beyond ludicrous at this point. They are grasping at pointless data to make a case that doesn’t exist.

 

[JoeCamel]

This is getting silly at this point. People still trying to bang the doom and gloom drum and think we should still be masking. It is beyond ludicrous at this point. They are grasping at pointless data to make a case that doesn’t exist.

If by "people" you mean Donnie know that poster likes to stir the pot and often the spoon used to stir is a bit bent towards hyperbole.

 

[lazyboy97o]

If by "people" you mean Donnie know that poster likes to stir the pot and often the spoon used to stir is a bit bent towards hyperbole.

And has been banned many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times before. The meltdowns can be interesting if you catch them.

 

[GoofGoof]

If by "people" you mean Donnie know that poster likes to stir the pot and often the spoon used to stir is a bit bent towards hyperbole.

Gotta get one of these…difficult to bend

 

[GoofGoof]

Even though we dropped the optimism from the thread title I‘ll share this here anyway:

Study suggests Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines could provide 'years' of protection

Study suggests Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines could provide 'years' of protection

www.yahoo.com

 

[LittleBuford]

A sobering read from the BBC journalist and presenter Andrew Marr:

Marr on catching Covid after being double vaccinated

The BBC's Andrew Marr fell ill with Covid-19, despite being vaccinated twice.

www.bbc.com

To quote his concluding words, "stay cautious, stay safe."

 

[JoeCamel]

Well DCL was to do a test cruise tomorrow, guess what happened on the way to the sailing?
Cancelled due to too many positive test results among the cast sailing (was all cast 300+). Don't count this virus out yet, it may rise fron the pit of vaccination.
Get your shot people, legitimate health concerns yeah but everyone else it is not worse than catching this crud, I'm 14 months out and still joint and muscle pain out of the blue, I'm concerned it may be what I deal with from here on out.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Even though we dropped the optimism from the thread title I‘ll share this here anyway:

Study suggests Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines could provide 'years' of protection

Study suggests Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines could provide 'years' of protection

www.yahoo.com

Who got rid of the optimism?

I noticed the doom and gloomers are running rampant today, though.

 

[Horizons '83]

Well DCL was to do a test cruise tomorrow, guess what happened on the way to the sailing?
Cancelled due to too many positive test results among the cast sailing (was all cast 300+). Don't count this virus out yet, it may rise fron the pit of vaccination yet.
Get your shot people, legitimate health concerns yeah but everyone else it is not worse than catching this crud, I'm 14 months out and still joint and muscle pain out of the blue

I think I read that most were false positives/ inaccurate tests but who knows if that was PR spin.

 

[JoeCamel]

I think I read that most were false positives/ inaccurate tests but who knows if that was PR spin.

Not what local Tampa news was reporting but who knows. They are pretty dialed into the parks though.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Not what local Tampa news was reporting but who knows. They are pretty dialed into the parks though.

This is the official statement:

"An official statement from the cruise line said because of inconsistent test results submitted before sailing, it will have to push the attempt to a later date. “We are delaying our simulation cruise due to a small number of inconsistent COVID-19 test results, which are considered positive by the CDC,” according to the statement. “The rigorous health and safety protocols we have in place helped us identify the situation, though the test results were ultimately negative.”

Disney Cruise Line delays test sail from Port Canaveral

 

[GimpYancIent]

This is the official statement:

"An official statement from the cruise line said because of inconsistent test results submitted before sailing, it will have to push the attempt to a later date. “We are delaying our simulation cruise due to a small number of inconsistent COVID-19 test results, which are considered positive by the CDC,” according to the statement. “The rigorous health and safety protocols we have in place helped us identify the situation, though the test results were ultimately negative.”

Disney Cruise Line delays test sail from Port Canaveral

Prudent action by DCL regardless of test results.

 

[JoeCamel]

This is the official statement:

"An official statement from the cruise line said because of inconsistent test results submitted before sailing, it will have to push the attempt to a later date. “We are delaying our simulation cruise due to a small number of inconsistent COVID-19 test results, which are considered positive by the CDC,” according to the statement. “The rigorous health and safety protocols we have in place helped us identify the situation, though the test results were ultimately negative.”

Disney Cruise Line delays test sail from Port Canaveral

Kinda brings into question all the testing we have been doing to date, we should know how to get good results by now right?

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Kinda brings into question all the testing we have been doing to date, we should know how to get good results by now right?

I don't know this, and I'm just speculating, but I wonder if the initial tests were rapid tests, which are far less accurate, and when the PCR tests came in, they came back negative? I know that has happened more often than not.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Kinda brings into question all the testing we have been doing to date, we should know how to get good results by now right?

Now you see?

 

[JoeCamel]

I don't know this, and I'm just speculating, but I wonder if the initial tests were rapid tests, which are far less accurate, and when the PCR tests came in, they came back negative? I know that has happened more often than not.

That is what I would guess as well and those are the same to fly testing in airports right? Why are we still using these? 75% or so accurate I think.