oceanbreeze77
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very possible, similar to what we saw in LA late winter.
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Though I was wrong about the sudden lifting of restrictions at the parks, I firmly believe that DCL will remain on hold - test sailings included - for a while. Follow the Parker."Disney Cruise Line had to delay plans to perform a test sailing of Disney Dream from Port Canaveral because of COVID-19 test results.
The ship was set to perform a two-night sailing leaving Tuesday as part of the line’s efforts to receive a conditional sailing certificate from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
An official statement from the cruise line said because of inconsistent test results submitted before sailing, it will have to push the attempt to a later date."
“We are delaying our simulation cruise due to a small number of inconsistent COVID-19 test results, which are considered positive by the CDC,” according to the statement. “The rigorous health and safety protocols we have in place helped us identify the situation, though the test results were ultimately negative.”
Disney Cruise Line delays test sail from Port Canaveral
Disney Cruise Line had to delay plans to perform a test sailing of Disney Dream from Port Canaveral because of COVID-19 test results. The ship was set to perform a two-night sailing leaving Tuesday…www.orlandosentinel.com
GoofGoof
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Did he ever say what happens if it goes above 5% again?
correcaminos
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If they do what was done elsewhere they could cruise
I just boarded the first major cruise ship to sail from a US port in 15 months; here’s what it was like - The Points Guy
Celebrity Edge is the first major cruise ship to sail from a U.S. port since the coronavirus pandemic began.
a news source on it too https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210627/first-u-s-cruise-ship-sets-sail-after-15-months
Not that I'm aware of.
But, the cruise has just begun. I wouldn't feel safe until they make it home (I mean, other cruising perils notwithstanding).If they do what was done elsewhere they could cruise
I just boarded the first major cruise ship to sail from a US port in 15 months; here’s what it was like - The Points Guy
Celebrity Edge is the first major cruise ship to sail from a U.S. port since the coronavirus pandemic began.thepointsguy.com
a news source on it too https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210627/first-u-s-cruise-ship-sets-sail-after-15-months
DisneyFan32
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WHO urges fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks as delta Covid variant spreads
"People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves," WHO official Dr. Mariangela Simao told reporters.
www.cnbc.com
DonniePeverley
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1.6 billion Indians (when you take into account migrants) were infected? The UK has a population of 68 million. Yet even with reporting issues, the pandemic seems to be going the wrong way in the UK - ie nearly a 500% growth rate in 2 months. And going the right way in India - as in cases fallen from almost 400,000 a few months ago to now approaching 35,000.
I'm just curious as to how that could happen?
DonniePeverley
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Fully agree.WHO urges fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks as delta Covid variant spreads
"People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves," WHO official Dr. Mariangela Simao told reporters.
TrainsOfDisney
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Same.
I’m still trying to figure out what changed - the CDC and President Biden were both saying by July 4th it would be safe to have small gatherings with vaccinated friends - and then they did a quick u-turn and everything opened up.
ABQ
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I'm not looking to get into the mask debate, but the one thing that seems to be different than before was, at least at one time, things did take different turns in the past year +, but for a long time, I kept reading "You wear a mask to protect others" as only a properly fitting N95 mask was said to be effective for the wearer, but 2 layers of cloth were said to do something to prevent the wearer from spreading droplets. This was all prior to the vaccine being available and the wearer being vaccinated. But the WHO statement clearly says that even if you are vaccinated they want you wearing a mask to protect yourself. That seems to be a different message. Again, not looking to get into a debate, just offering an answer to the question of what changed"
Polkadotdress
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Here’s a good detailed explanation of why we should not just “shrug off” what’s happening in the UK, because when you break down the numbers, it tells a different story. Of note, this thread states that the UK has actually fully vaxx’d more people than the US, yet their Delta #s (both caseload and hospitalizations) are growing.
DonniePeverley
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I did wonder if it was an incentive to push people into getting the vaccine. However, once you stop mask mandating and distancing, it would be politically difficult to bring back i assume.
danlb_2000
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All the evidence we have indicates that if you are fully vaccinated your risk of sever illness is extremely low. Yes, wearing a mask may further reduce the risk, but it's already probably lower then a lot of risks we take every day.
There really isn't any strong evidence that the Delta variant is evading the vaccines. I have seen a lot of articles quote that Wall Street Journal article about vaccinated people being infected, but the original article doesn't provide sources for this and is very light on actual data.
DonniePeverley
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Polkadotdress
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That was his explanation of “here’s where they were a month ago (May)”. If you scroll through the whole Tweet thread, he has additional updated graphs, clarifying the caseload increase.
GoofGoof
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None of this tells me that the US is 2-4 weeks behind the UK on an outbreak based on the delta variant and we will soon be back over 100,000 cases a day and a week later over 200,000 as the other poster stated. Nobody said we shrug anything off but there’s no way anyone can say with any level of certainty that we are 2 to 4 weeks away from a large outbreak like that.
Flugell
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I understand that when looked at by numbers, though percentages and numbers are not comparable that it may appear that the U.K. is being overwhelmed, speaking from the U.K. that is not the case.
On April 28th 2021 there were 2,166 confirmed new cases.
Today the number of confirmed new cases was 22,818 a slightly more than 10 times increase.
Hospital admissions on April 28th 2021 were 107.
Hospital admissions on June 28th 2021 were 227 this is slightly more than double.
The weekly number of deaths for the week of 28th April 2021 was 21.
The weekly number of deaths for this week is 93.
93 is too many but it is definitely not the gloom and doom scenario that I keep seeing on this thread.
Our vaccination rate is continuing to increase rapidly and tests are rapidly available so please don’t despair yet!
As for the situation in India, I have no personal experience as I have never been nor have relatives there. I have however watched various detailed programmes on the situation in India, though appreciate that it maybe biased or simply inaccurate! The situation, as it was presented, is that everything was under reported because
1. Tests were only available at hospitals and they had often run out.
2. There was insufficient time and staff to process all the tests that were administered.
3. Without an official positive COVID test deaths were not recorded as COVID related even though all symptoms were present.
4. In areas outside the big cities there was only minimal health care available so records of cases were not recorded accurately.
5. In cities the hospitals were overwhelmed and didn’t have the time or facilities to record everything accurately.
6. No idea why cases appear to be falling so rapidly but truly hope this is the case and it has burnt itself out and it is not due to a shortage of tests, shortage of medical facilities or government manipulation of figures. I have no evidence for any of these scenarios and am simply speculating and as I stated previously hope that cases are indeed declining naturally!
On April 28th 2021 there were 2,166 confirmed new cases.
Today the number of confirmed new cases was 22,818 a slightly more than 10 times increase.
Hospital admissions on April 28th 2021 were 107.
Hospital admissions on June 28th 2021 were 227 this is slightly more than double.
The weekly number of deaths for the week of 28th April 2021 was 21.
The weekly number of deaths for this week is 93.
93 is too many but it is definitely not the gloom and doom scenario that I keep seeing on this thread.
Our vaccination rate is continuing to increase rapidly and tests are rapidly available so please don’t despair yet!
As for the situation in India, I have no personal experience as I have never been nor have relatives there. I have however watched various detailed programmes on the situation in India, though appreciate that it maybe biased or simply inaccurate! The situation, as it was presented, is that everything was under reported because
1. Tests were only available at hospitals and they had often run out.
2. There was insufficient time and staff to process all the tests that were administered.
3. Without an official positive COVID test deaths were not recorded as COVID related even though all symptoms were present.
4. In areas outside the big cities there was only minimal health care available so records of cases were not recorded accurately.
5. In cities the hospitals were overwhelmed and didn’t have the time or facilities to record everything accurately.
6. No idea why cases appear to be falling so rapidly but truly hope this is the case and it has burnt itself out and it is not due to a shortage of tests, shortage of medical facilities or government manipulation of figures. I have no evidence for any of these scenarios and am simply speculating and as I stated previously hope that cases are indeed declining naturally!
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