Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

I read about that.

Two things stuck out at me in the article I read...

1) The evidence is anecdotal.
2) There is no corroborating evidence in the US or Germany.

3) heart inflammation is a common symptom of actual Covid infection. So avoiding the vaccine could actually make you more likely to suffer from this.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

2) There is no corroborating evidence in the US or Germany.

Yet.

Was enough to make me want to switch to Moderna!

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Yet.

Was enough to make me want to switch to Moderna!

With the millions of doses administered in the US and Germany, I'm pretty sure we'd have seen corroborating evidence by now if we were going to.

 

[danlb_2000]

It's interesting when people get really concerned over these extremely rare possible side effects. Do you know what has been proven to give millions of people really bad side effects? Getting COVID!

 

[Rich Brownn]

Very good post.

I’m not anti-vaccine but it’s true that the vaccines were rushed and that are still not fully approved, only approved for emergency use. There have been a few rare, serious reactions to the J&J and Pfizer vaccines that are concerning.

Those are facts.

https://vaccine.unchealthcare.org/s...emergency-use-authorization-and-fda-approval/ Not rushed.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's interesting when people get really concerned over these extremely rare possible side effects. Do you know what has been proven to give millions of people really bad side effects? Getting COVID!

My chances of being hospitalized with covid are also extremely small. So should I not care if my chances are low?

 

[DCBaker]

"The Transportation Security Administration on Friday extended a federal requirement that travelers on buses, trains, commercial flights and at airports wear face masks. The requirement was set to expire on May 11 and will now be in effect through Sept. 13."

TSA extends mask requirement for planes, buses and trains through mid-September

The TSA on Friday extended a federal requirement that travelers on buses, trains, commercial flights and at airports wear face masks.

www.cnbc.com

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

https://vaccine.unchealthcare.org/s...emergency-use-authorization-and-fda-approval/ Not rushed.

Agreed... “expedited”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I read about that.

Two things stuck out at me in the article I read...

1) The evidence is anecdotal.
2) There is no corroborating evidence in the US or Germany.

so like...not too good then??

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

https://vaccine.unchealthcare.org/s...emergency-use-authorization-and-fda-approval/ Not rushed.

“accelerated” would be a better description

 

[danlb_2000]

My chances of being hospitalized with covid are also extremely small. So should I not care if my chances are low?

Hospitalization isn't a requirement for a bad outcome...

Study finds non-hospitalized COVID patients more at risk for long-term health problems

"I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP:" A Bay Area COVID-19 survivor opens up about his struggle with long-term health problems. A study involving 75,000 non-hospitalized patients shows, he's not alone.

abc7news.com

 

[Lilofan]

My chances of being hospitalized with covid are also extremely small. So should I not care if my chances are low?

That's what my brother's best friend who is healthy and has no underlying health conditions thought too. He tested positive for covid then quarantined in his condo. He then collapsed in his condo and was then hospitalized for several days.

 

[GoofGoof]

That's what my brother's best friend who is healthy and has no underlying health conditions thought too. He tested positive for covid then quarantined in his condo. He then collapsed in his condo and was then hospitalized for several days.

I know a person in their 30s who had the same thing happen. She actually had a mild cases and recovered from Covid and a few months later collapsed and was rushed to the ER where they found multiple blood clots including one that went to her brain. Doctor told her blood clots were a common long hauler symptom, particularly in younger people who had mild Covid.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I know a person in their 30s who had the same thing happen. She actually had a mild cases and recovered from Covid and a few months later collapsed and was rushed to the ER where they found multiple blood clots including one that went to her brain. Doctor told her blood clots were a common long hauler symptom, particularly in younger people who had mild Covid.

Yup. There’s so much we don’t know.

So the blood clots that may or may not be from covid I should be worried about but the blood clots that may or may not be from J&J I shouldn’t worry about?

 

[FormerMember]

The CDC also says we're not allowed to eat medium-rare beef.

They also say public pools should empty every hour for testing.

 

[GoofGoof]

Yup. There’s so much we don’t know.

So the blood clots that may or may not be from covid I should be worried about but the blood clots that may or may not be from J&J I shouldn’t worry about?

15 blood clots is .0001% of the people who received the JnJ vaccine. In this study 20% of Covid patients had issues with blood clotting.

https://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2020-11-23-study-covid-19-infection-combined-with-blood-clots-worsen-patient-outcomes.aspx

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

In this study 20% of Covid patients had issues with blood clotting.

If I’m reading that correctly, that was 20% of covid patients that were hospitalized at one particular hospital.

 

[GoofGoof]

If I’m reading that correctly, that was 20% of covid patients that were hospitalized at one particular hospital.

It was a study of 8,000 patients. From the article:

Led by Mahmoud Malas, MD, division chief of Vascular and Endovascular Surgery at UC San Diego Health, researchers reviewed 42 different studies involving more than 8,000 patients diagnosed with COVID-19.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

It was a study of 8,000 patients. From the article:

Led by Mahmoud Malas, MD, division chief of Vascular and Endovascular Surgery at UC San Diego Health, researchers reviewed 42 different studies involving more than 8,000 patients diagnosed with COVID-19.

That's quite a concerning number.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Yup. There’s so much we don’t know.

So the blood clots that may or may not be from covid I should be worried about but the blood clots that may or may not be from J&J I shouldn’t worry about?

The several orders of magnitude higher incidence of disseminated intravascular coagulation in actual COVID cases should have you much more worried than an extremely rare side effect of a vaccine.

And that's just one many, many consequences from COVID.

Are we really still in denial mode more than a year later?