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EPCOT New Park Entrance coming to Epcot

UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Brenthodge said:
There are better ways to engage and inform that being condescending and superior though. I for one would totally discount anything intelligent you had to say if you started by responding to me that way.
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That particular poster is a bit of an outlier because he shows up and posts a ton of nonsense then disappears for a while before coming back and doing it again.

I'm not saying that makes it okay to be condescending, but he has a history and I think people are just getting sick of it.
 
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HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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UNCgolf said:
That particular poster is a bit of an outlier because he shows up and posts a ton of nonsense then disappears for a while before coming back and doing it again.

I'm not saying that makes it okay to be condescending, but he has a history and I think people are just getting sick of it.
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Like, say, posting a 10-year old rendering of a high speed rail station plan that was abandoned and passing it off as something currently on the table?
 
No Name

No Name

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HauntedPirate said:
Odd that they are replacing the colored concrete, which if memory serves was that way for a reason related to photography, with plain gray concrete.
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It was related to photography in the 60s and 70s, and obviously both camera technology and aesthetic tastes have changed quite a bit since then, though unfortunately I don’t know much more on it. Perhaps the gray is a bit boring but they‘ve been moving away from reddish concrete for a while now.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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egg said:
It was related to photography in the 60s and 70s, and obviously both camera technology and aesthetic tastes have changed quite a bit since then, though unfortunately I don’t know much more on it. Perhaps the gray is a bit boring but they‘ve been moving away from reddish concrete for a while now.
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Personally I prefer the grey concrete with the different design elements to the red. I wish they would take a leaf out of Disneyland's book and replace more of the coloured concrete at Magic Kingdom with something more interesting and detailed.
 
WondersOfLife

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
HauntedPirate said:
Wanna see my badge? 😂

Just pointing out an(other) error by a particular poster. Inspirational and aspirational are the words I’d use to describe EPCOT Center.
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I would definitely argue that Epcot was about change, PLUS the other words you used to describe it. Inspiration leads to change.
  • "Experimental Prototype Community of TOMORROW"
  • "FUTURE World" - The changes and future of technology, living, and earth.
  • Spaceship Earth: (After numerous scenes of how communication has changed over the years) "Today our search for understanding is unbounded by space and time. Vast stores of information, knowledge from everywhere, standing ready at our beck and call to reach us in an instant. With our great network, we harness our knowledge, give it shape and form to serve us, to help create and communicate a better awareness of ourselves, and our world." - The changes and future of communication
  • Horizons: "And I'll tell you something ... if we can dream it, we really can do it. And that's the most exciting part." - Represented by the words you chose, but it also reflects on the future and changes of tomorrow.
  • World of Motion: (After numerous scenes of how transportation has changed over the years) "We have engineered marvels that take us swiftly over land and sea, through the air, and into space itself. And still bolder and better ideas are yet to come."
  • Universe of Energy: "In our ever-changing world, the road to tomorrow's energy is indeed long, complex and challenging."
  • The Living Seas: Ya got me there, I guess. But today it's definitely themed around conservation and the future of keeping the ocean healthy, listen to Crush.
  • Kitchen Kabaret: Encouraging people to change their eating habits and be more healthy in the future.
  • Listen to the Land: Educating people on different environments, while also showing people how farming has changed and evolved overtime, up to modern day.
  • Symbiosis: Focusing on preservation of the earth: "It is in our power to address these issues... ect." Encouraging people to change the issues and ways we affect the environment.

I'm just saying... Even my 72 year old dad who visited Epcot on opening day just told me yesterday, "Epcot Center was the most amazing thing... My friends and I would go to Magic Kingdom and immediately want to go back over to Epcot Center. And the problem with it is, all of that advancement of technology is here today, and it's just kind of... There. Everything they predicted, happened. What was spectacular back then is just sort of ho-hum today... So I understand why they're putting the movies and stuff there. It doesn't get outdated as quickly, and it's not quite as boring."
 
OvertheHorizon

OvertheHorizon

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I completely agree with what WonderOfLife just wrote. I was 36 when Epcot opened and watched its progress from the moment it was announced. My first visit was within six months of opening. I was overwhelmed. It's hard to keep up with the future. We barely had personal computers when Epcot opened and everyone still used a landline. I find amazement in every Disney park, but Epcot will always be special for me.
 
WondersOfLife

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Point being, Epcot was like a gigantic DisneyQuest... It cost Disney much more time and money to keep up with growing technology and changes than they would have liked to keep up with.

Same with MGM Studios and the advancement of how films are created nowadays, hence why we get Toy Story Land and Star Wars Land jumping "into" the movies instead of "how" the movies are made. Same thing.
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
WondersOfLife said:
I was just quoting my father... You're being a bit too literal there. I'm sure he was talking more about the smaller stuff: He went on and on about how communicating with someone in a different country on a screen in front of you was an amazing idea and unimaginable, and here it is today and it's just, here.
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No disrespect to your father. The “global neighbourhood” always makes me chuckle. And that was 1994.
 
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dreday3

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WondersOfLife said:
I was just quoting my father... You're being a bit too literal there. I'm sure he was talking more about the smaller stuff: He went on and on about how communicating with someone in a different country on a screen in front of you was an amazing idea and unimaginable, and here it is today and it's just, here.
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I get it. When I went on Horizons back in the early 80s (9 or 10 yrs old) - I couldn't believe all the stuff that was possible. And now here we are. :) (well, we aren't living underwater yet, but you know what I mean...)
 
MadTeacup

MadTeacup

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dreday3 said:
I get it. When I went on Horizons back in the early 80s (9 or 10 yrs old) - I couldn't believe all the stuff that was possible. And now here we are. :) (well, we aren't living underwater yet, but you know what I mean...)
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We're also not in the "Year 3000" quite yet. Just you wait...

For the sake of the discussion, I wouldn't exactly consider Change a theme of EPCOT, but more a side effect of the theme. EPCOT's theme word is Discovery. Discovery leads to knowledge-based change. Therefore, I wouldn't exactly count change based on a person's whim as a central part of EPCOT, but change based on knowledge, invention, and innovation are exactly what EPCOT's theme intends to drive guests towards (in its truest, least IP-suffocated form).
 
WondersOfLife

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
MadTeacup said:
change based on knowledge, invention, and innovation
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Ohhhhh.... Change!!!

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sedati

sedati

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ImperfectPixie said:
I'm consistently shocked at how dirty the sphere gets whenever I see close-ups...it never looks that dirty in person.
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You wouldn’t want to go through your home with a microscope. So, while it’s great to see zoomed in details like this, it shouldn’t be used to exemplify the guest experience as is so often the case on these forums.
 

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