EPCOT New Park Entrance coming to Epcot

[brihow]

Can you see the mounted light in the second picture to even compare?

I honesty think yes you would be able to see it if the images were higher resolution.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Can you see the mounted light in the second picture to even compare?

I'm honestly surprised you'd argue that one close-up nighttime photo means we can already tell how it's going to look in daylight when it's finished, either for good or ill.

Not saying I think it will look bad, just saying I don't know.

 

[peter11435]

I'm honestly surprised you'd argue that one close-up nighttime photo means we can already tell how it's going to look in daylight when it's finished, either for good or ill.

Not saying I think it will look bad, just saying I don't know.

Exactly. If we need to wait to say it will look fine/good we should also wait to flip out and say it will look horrible .

 

[Supernova]

Personally I think the dream lights on the castle at Christmas are probably more noticeable than these lights will be. Of course if you’re intent on looking for them you will see them, otherwise they won’t be largely noticeable

 

[dreday3]

Can you see the mounted light in the second picture to even compare?

Nope.

 

[sedati]

In spite of what some think, I haven't ruled out the possibility of a spectacular night show. I have, however, concern about the daytime alteration of such a great creation. If they do it and I don't really notice any difference with the outside appearance during the daylight then I will probably be OK with it. But, I'm not sure how that will happen, I am hopeful.

Honestly, this can't be anything more than an embellishment and here's why:
"A spectacular night show" would draw crowds and this structure is positioned as a thoroughfare. Imagine if the only way in and out of the Magic Kingdom was through Cinderella's castle and you'll understand the logistics problem. The massive hub and all its various pathways become a nightmare during any show on the castle. Now widdle all that down to one small viewing area that is also the only way in or out of the park.
If Spaceship Earth is just getting new sparkles and colors, then that will should be visible from many other points within the park itself, but still, most are going to want to grab their selfies from the front and that can only be done in just one small, problematic part of this otherwise massive park. What's worse, it's a spot that offers no snack carts, no light-up gifts etc that helps a park profit from such wonderful nighttime distractions. Of course, carts could be wheeled in, but that would only add clutter to a space that is again, a thoroughfare.

 

[Thelazer]

Maybe at least they could pressure wash all the panels while they are up there and give em a good polishing to!
If that could be done, I'll live with however these lights turn out, if we can get SSE looking at least not like a dirty golf ball anymore.

 

[artvandelay]

Are these light fixtures RGB? RGBAW? or just “white” LED’s? Trying to figure out how many control channels and how many universes of DMX.

 

[Brenthodge]

Are these light fixtures RGB? RGBAW? or just “white” LED’s? Trying to figure out how many control channels and how many universes of DMX.

I definitely don’t think they are white only. That defeats the point of the 6 points of light around the circumference of the fixture to shine into the 6 creases in the surface at each joint point. These will create washes of color across the surface of SE in (hopefully) subtle patterns. I’d say at least RGB around the edge and maybe RGBW in the center with each of the 6 diodes around the edge being addressed separately from the diode matrix on the front.

 

[castlecake2.0]

What’s with removing all the red pavement in the entrance area? They seem to be doing it in the france pavilion too

 

[tparris]

What’s with removing all the red pavement in the entrance area? They seem to be doing it in the france pavilion too

They’re replacing the pavement under SSE to match the new pavement in the entrance plaza. As for France, I’m not really sure, but it’s probably just a routine thing

 

[Bocabear]

I would assume RGBW...So they can get a good clean White when they need it...

 

[artvandelay]

I would assume RGBW...So they can get a good clean White when they need it...

That would make sense.

 

[flynnibus]

All this talk about wiring... violating the structure etc. doesn’t sse already have strobes installed in alot of those spots today?

i still question the tap light dome though. Curious the effect they are going for that projection wasn’t enough

 

[Brenthodge]

All this talk about wiring... violating the structure etc. doesn’t sse already have strobes installed in alot of those spots today?

i still question the tap light dome though. Curious the effect they are going for that projection wasn’t enough

I don’t believe there are strobes all over the surface, and I appreciate the fact they are NOT doing projections, but an actual, surface mounted lighting effect. I think the issue with projections is the same as they’ve always had, how do you light the tip top where the angle and curve makes that almost impossible.

 

[flynnibus]

I don’t believe there are strobes all over the surface, and I appreciate the fact they are NOT doing projections, but an actual, surface mounted lighting effect. I think the issue with projections is the same as they’ve always had, how do you light the tip top where the angle and curve makes that almost impossible.

they have the same problem throwing lights at it and get a reasonable effect.

i thought it had strobes... but maybe they were laser effects

example

 

[MisterPenguin]

they have the same problem throwing lights at it and get a reasonable effect.

i thought it had strobes... but maybe they were laser effects

example

And this is why a lot of laser projecting effects are awful. You have a beam of light tracing a path on a object over and over again, but not fast enough to not see it jitter.

Unlike the electron ray gun of a cathode TV tube which used a phosphor dot on the screen to temporarily glow and 'hold' the light there long enough to be refreshed, laser light just bounces off a spot and it immediately darkens when the laser pointer moves on. The technology hasn't progressed much since the 70's "laser light shows".

Laser lights can be used in some good ways, but projecting images will always be a fail until the mechanism moving the laser becomes much, much faster (requiring the laser light to be even brighter) or they use a whole boatload of lasers at once.

 

[marni1971]

All this talk about wiring... violating the structure etc. doesn’t sse already have strobes installed in alot of those spots today?

Nope. Nothing attached to the surface until now.

 

[flynnibus]

And this is why a lot of laser projecting effects are awful. You have a beam of light tracing a path on a object over and over again, but not fast enough to not see it jitter.

Unlike the electron ray gun of a cathode TV tube which used a phosphor dot on the screen to temporarily glow and 'hold' the light there long enough to be refreshed, laser light just bounces off a spot and it immediately darkens when the laser pointer moves on. The technology hasn't progressed much since the 70's "laser light shows".

Laser lights can be used in some good ways, but projecting images will always be a fail until the mechanism moving the laser becomes much, much faster (requiring the laser light to be even brighter) or they use a whole boatload of lasers at once.

not sure what this tangent was for...

 

[MisterPenguin]

not sure what this tangent was for...

Posterity.

Also, it goes to the discussion of projection v. self illumination and how the projections on SSE weren't that good, so, the new self-illumination has a hope of being good.

Or not.