Mastermott
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Shouldn’t the RR be in place before Oct 1st? It was what got the parks started!
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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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The Rocketeer
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Should? Absolutely. Realistically It's gonna be late Spring 2022 at the earliest *sighs*
OK. "The sidecar position on Hagrids is comparable to SM in that regard."
MagicHappens1971
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I'm pretty short so the sidecar was fine for me, but I would say for taller/bigger people that sidecar has to be pretty uncomfortable
ToTBellHop
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Completely different. Hagrid isn’t really a bike coaster. It’s a normal coaster with trains that look like bikes.
Hitchens
Active Member
Tron is taking forever at WDW, despite that it's a cloned attraction.
And Ratatouille, another cloned attraction, could've opened in EPCOT months ago, but it won't open till October.
Is it just me, or does Universal open its attractions more quickly & intelligently than Disney does?
(I'm just referring to Disney's American resorts, though Disneyland Paris took way too long to refurb Phantom Manor
a few years ago.)
When Disney opened Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, it lacked features that "Slow Bob" had boasted about that fans then expected. Fans were later disappointed when they weren't delivered.
Universal, in contrast, seemed to almost deny that the potentially cool raptor coaster at Universal Orlando was even being built (wink wink nudge nudge) despite that there were big freakin' coaster hills guests could see.
If I hear reports that WDW is phoning it in, cutting more perks, and not addressing
miserable over-crowding, inconvenience, & overpricing,**
for examples:
-- restaurant reservations SIX months in advance?! (PLEASE, DO NOT BRING THAT BACK!) That makes planning a trip to Disney World much more onerous in my opinion that visiting Europe.
-- Ride reservations three months in advance?!
-- Resort parking fees,
--$10 per person restaurant cancellation fees,
--slow & insufficient busses making more stops than a bus crossing downtown Detroit,
--no more Magical Express, etc.
then I'll put off my next Florida visit till 2024 through 2028
and it will be mainly to visit Universal's Halloween Horror Nights, and maybe spend 3 nights at WDW.
** Footnote! Correct, if guests are willing to pay any shocking price that Disney charges, one could argue that it is by definition not overpriced IN THE SHORT RUN. But charging as much as possible for many things could hurt the brand in the long run.
And Ratatouille, another cloned attraction, could've opened in EPCOT months ago, but it won't open till October.
Is it just me, or does Universal open its attractions more quickly & intelligently than Disney does?
(I'm just referring to Disney's American resorts, though Disneyland Paris took way too long to refurb Phantom Manor
a few years ago.)
When Disney opened Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, it lacked features that "Slow Bob" had boasted about that fans then expected. Fans were later disappointed when they weren't delivered.
Universal, in contrast, seemed to almost deny that the potentially cool raptor coaster at Universal Orlando was even being built (wink wink nudge nudge) despite that there were big freakin' coaster hills guests could see.
If I hear reports that WDW is phoning it in, cutting more perks, and not addressing
miserable over-crowding, inconvenience, & overpricing,**
for examples:
-- restaurant reservations SIX months in advance?! (PLEASE, DO NOT BRING THAT BACK!) That makes planning a trip to Disney World much more onerous in my opinion that visiting Europe.
-- Ride reservations three months in advance?!
-- Resort parking fees,
--$10 per person restaurant cancellation fees,
--slow & insufficient busses making more stops than a bus crossing downtown Detroit,
--no more Magical Express, etc.
then I'll put off my next Florida visit till 2024 through 2028
and it will be mainly to visit Universal's Halloween Horror Nights, and maybe spend 3 nights at WDW.
** Footnote! Correct, if guests are willing to pay any shocking price that Disney charges, one could argue that it is by definition not overpriced IN THE SHORT RUN. But charging as much as possible for many things could hurt the brand in the long run.
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UNCgolf
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So cryptic!
Only a reply to the post above mine
splashtest
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Will they continue to finish up the outside until it is complete? Or are they "done" for the time being?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Universal doesn’t announce attractions well before they’re done with design work. They did something’s fast but they too are getting slower and more expensive. Bourne Stuntacular opened much later than originally announced.
RSoxNo1
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Universal doesn't announce projects 5 years out, they announce them 5 months out when it's not really a surprise. That helps temper expectations.
Indy_UK
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Even doing that with Kong didn’t temper expectations for that naff ride
RSoxNo1
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Kong is a solid attraction, it was just on the heals of Potter. Fast and Furious on the other hand, is awful.
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yensidtlaw1969
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Yeah, that's not the *only* logical assumption that can be made. It's entirely possible that a new team and a new audience will not have the same learning curve on a new attraction as the original did.
It may be bold to assume either way, but it's not like success is the only option.
HauntedMansion513
Active Member
Granted, I agree Bourne took too long... but let's not pretend there wasn't a delay because of the pandemic. Universal is still routinely building quicker than Disney. I love them both, but Universal is making huge strides lately, even with everything that has been going on, while Disney is getting lazy IMO.
lazyboy97o
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Bourne was delayed by a year well before the pandemic. Again, Disney often announces projects just as design is really getting started and Universal after construction is well underway.
HauntedMansion513
Active Member
Fair point. Bourne took way too long, but other than that, I can't think of another attraction that was unnecessarily delayed at Uni. Opened too soon though.... that's another story (Hagrid).
Jrb1979
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Honestly I think it works against them way more then it helps them. It would make more sense to follow the Universal route when announcing new attractions. IMO what hurts them the most is how a lot of the time the design they release never ends up being that way.
Even in the early days of social media, remember the Bay Lake Tower?