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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year, yet 50 million Americans will still travel for Thanksgiving​


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Thanksgiving is over. Christmas is coming. What now?

COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year — yet 50 million Americans traveled for Thanksgiving.
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I hope AAA has this one wrong and their estimate is way off. If Thanksgiving travel is only down from 55M last year to 50M this year that’s tragic.
 
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oceanbreeze77

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GoofGoof said:

COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year, yet 50 million Americans will still travel for Thanksgiving​


www.marketwatch.com

Thanksgiving is over. Christmas is coming. What now?

COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year — yet 50 million Americans traveled for Thanksgiving.
www.marketwatch.com www.marketwatch.com

I hope AAA has this one wrong and their estimate is way off. If Thanksgiving travel is only down from 55M last year to 50M this year that’s tragic.
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bad news...


 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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DisneyCane

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GoofGoof said:

COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year, yet 50 million Americans will still travel for Thanksgiving​


www.marketwatch.com

Thanksgiving is over. Christmas is coming. What now?

COVID-19 spread when 5 million people left Wuhan for Chinese New Year — yet 50 million Americans traveled for Thanksgiving.
www.marketwatch.com www.marketwatch.com

I hope AAA has this one wrong and their estimate is way off. If Thanksgiving travel is only down from 55M last year to 50M this year that’s tragic.
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That headline is deliberate sensationalism. When the 5 million from Wuhan traveled, nobody knew to take any precautions and the virus didn't exist yet where they traveled to. What's the difference if somebody brings it from Florida to New York or vice versa when there is already community spread in both places? The aircraft is the lowest likelihood for spread of any indoor place outside of a hospital due to the filtration and rate of air exchange in the cabin.
 
note2001

note2001

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oceanbreeze77 said:
TSA had 1 million travelers yesterday.
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Still expecting it to be better than what it would have been without precautions

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GimpYancIent

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DisneyCane said:
That headline is deliberate sensationalism. When the 5 million from Wuhan traveled, nobody knew to take any precautions and the virus didn't exist yet where they traveled to. What's the difference if somebody brings it from Florida to New York or vice versa when there is already community spread in both places? The aircraft is the lowest likelihood for spread of any indoor place outside of a hospital due to the filtration and rate of air exchange in the cabin.
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Aircraft cabin atmosphere is constantly recirculate air through an air filtration system that is no where near hospital grade. Forget social distancing. Then you get treated like live stock. Ahhhhhh but many people simply think about time and where they want to be. Anything else is just a minor nuisance.
 
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GimpYancIent

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GoofGoof said:
I wouldn‘t say exclusive. It’s an opinion shared by many.

Its also a fact that the transition team is not working with the current task force because they are not allowed to. That’s not a matter of opinion.

I personally don’t see why they would do that. You can work together while simultaneously pursuing as many lawsuits as crazy uncle Rudy can file. If the lawsuits come through the worst that happens is everyone wasted their time on transition work and you didn’t need it. If they don’t then you are ready for the transition. This vaccine and Covid in general is way too important to fall victim to petty, ego driven political games.
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Corona Virus, WDW, Vaccine, social distancing, temp readings, Oh yea the MASK I get. The other stuff you spout about is a lot of smoke and mirrors. No many do not share your opinion.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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GimpYancIent said:
Aircraft cabin atmosphere is constantly recirculate air through an air filtration system that is no where near hospital grade. Forget social distancing. Then you get treated like live stock. Ahhhhhh but many people simply think about time and where they want to be. Anything else is just a minor nuisance.
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Not exactly. for example, Air France:

  • Our aircraft are equipped with an air recycling system consisting of HEPA «High Efficiency Particulate Air» filters identical to those used in operating theatres, which trap 99.9% of particles.
  • The air in the cabin is renewed every 3 minutes.
KLM:

Fresh air
During the flight, the air is constantly refreshed with fresh air from outside the aircraft. Our aircraft are equipped with HEPA filters. These filters capture 99.99% of all bacteria and viruses, including the coronavirus.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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DisneyDebRob said:
As if we didn’t have enough data already.. but I know a few here still don’t believe. Let’s all just wear one please.

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Stupid is as stupid does

lazyboy97o said:
In the Disneyland forum you can find outright encouragement for ignoring not just the curfew but also the advice of public health experts.
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Same answer as above. DL fans appear to more numero uno that we even thought. Nobody is really hiding their “warts” after this year.

note2001 said:
Mixed feeling here on this. First off we're never getting the proper view when the pics are taken across the crowd. Some of the distance shots show people trying to be careful.

Second, the people taking these pics are just as guilty of being in the crowd as anyone else.

Ugh.
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So they’re all being selfish then? Don’t know if that is comforting or negates the mistake either way...
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
marni1971 said:
Not exactly. for example, Air France:

  • Our aircraft are equipped with an air recycling system consisting of HEPA «High Efficiency Particulate Air» filters identical to those used in operating theatres, which trap 99.9% of particles.
  • The air in the cabin is renewed every 3 minutes.
KLM:

Fresh air
During the flight, the air is constantly refreshed with fresh air from outside the aircraft. Our aircraft are equipped with HEPA filters. These filters capture 99.99% of all bacteria and viruses, including the coronavirus.
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HEPA technology is sound (one of the things I dabble in)...so very effective for this scenario

However, the process of commingling, screening and embarking/disembarking the plane is inappropriate. No matter how the airlines spin it - we end up right back there.

A real time rapid test is the answer to airports. If any government wants to retain their air travel...they should be full onboard with investing/paying for this tech. And a system that can be modified for things After corona 19 would be a good idea as well.
 
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