Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GimpYancIent]

I see this is gonna be a theme...

Stop watching Fox. They are manipulating you and making you look like a fool...and taking the whole country with you.

It’s amazing the con is still working after all these years:

As the Slovenian squatter says “Be Best”

Yes, by no means look at, read or listen to anything that is not screened, reviewed, scrutinized and edited then approved by the Politburo. You must always remember comrade independent thought is not acceptable.

 

[GimpYancIent]

You can keep saying it, but it doesn’t become any more possible to do. How exactly do we limit restrictions to “at risk” people? Haven‘t seen a single plan that actually would accomplish that. I’m seriously curious to see how people propose we do it.

As out of the box as it may seem, but, if the U.S. government would contract Disney to manage COVID19 mitigation protocols and standards for the nation things would work more efficiently. Disney would make money plus the nation would have one set of standards proven to work. Just a thought.

 

[GoofGoof]

As out of the box as it may seem, but, if the U.S. government would contract Disney to manage COVID19 mitigation protocols and standards for the nation things would work more efficiently. Disney would make money plus the nation would have one set of standards proven to work. Just a thought.

I don’t disagree. However, the reason Disney‘s plan works so well is they have a firm set of rules around masks, distancing and avoiding large groups and they enforce those rules. I think we’d be in a much different place right now if we had that nationwide, but Disney has the ability to kick you out of their park if you don’t comply, unless they could extend that to the country I’m not sure if the rules work as well when you can’t really enforce them.

IMHO what would be best is if the collective people actually wanted to do what was necessary then the government wouldn’t need to enforce anything, but as we have all seen people can’t control themselves and if left to make their own decisions too many would choose poorly.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

The virus is everywhere...it’s going to be one of those things where you will need a new vaccine every year.

Ive accepted that and I’m ready to move on.

There’s no containing it, and we just have to learn to live with it.

 

[GoofGoof]

The virus is everywhere...it’s going to be one of those things where you will need a new vaccine every year.

Ive accepted that and I’m ready to move on.

There’s no containing it, and we just have to learn to live with it.

Learn to live with it = follow basic, simple safety protocols. Wear a mask when out in public, practice social distancing, avoid large group gatherings especially without masks and social distancing. The vast majority of the economy can be open under those conditions and the vast majority of activities can happen. Life isn’t back to normal, but it’s a new temporary normal while we wait for a vaccine which hopefully works.

A vaccine is the only way to get to herd immunity and get back to some version of normal any time soon. We have no idea if we will need a new vaccine every year, it’s possible but who knows. I think most people saying stuff like this just want an excuse to not have their actions restricted right now. We have to worry about today not a year from today.

 

[Chi84]

The virus is everywhere...it’s going to be one of those things where you will need a new vaccine every year.

Ive accepted that and I’m ready to move on.

There’s no containing it, and we just have to learn to live with it.

Okay, but you just said restrictions should be limited to "at risk" populations, and I asked how that could be done. Are you now saying there should be no restrictions because nothing will work?

 

[FeelsSoGoodToBeBad]

As out of the box as it may seem, but, if the U.S. government would contract Disney to manage COVID19 mitigation protocols and standards for the nation things would work more efficiently. Disney would make money plus the nation would have one set of standards proven to work. Just a thought.

If we could get Disney and Chick-fil-a to team up, I feel like this would be over in a matter of weeks! (Just kidding, of course...mostly.)

 

[GoofGoof]

If we could get Disney and Chick-fil-a to team up, I feel like this would be over in a matter of weeks! (Just kidding, of course...mostly.)

Would we have to close everything on Sunday? I’d actually be Ok with that if it gets us out of this

 

[FeelsSoGoodToBeBad]

Would we have to close everything on Sunday? I’d actually be Ok with that if it gets us out of this

Worth it.

 

[Patcheslee]

The virus is everywhere...it’s going to be one of those things where you will need a new vaccine every year.

Ive accepted that and I’m ready to move on.

There’s no containing it, and we just have to learn to live with it.

For "at risk" what is living with it though? I haven't gotten to hug my step-dad since January. A monthly visit is my mom bringing him over and him sitting in the car window cracked and everyone masked for a few minutes of conversation with DD12. He doesn't even get to go to the store and hasn't been allowed to work.
And how would restrictions on at risk population help? Even nursing homes are having outbreaks, some of the places with what is supposed to be strictest restrictions, yet still cases climbing in them again. It's not like the residents are going out in public and bringing it back.

 

[FeelsSoGoodToBeBad]

It's not like the residents are going out in public and bringing it back.

And that's the key, right there. The "at risk" don't live in their own, exclusive reality. They ultimately have to interact at some point with people who are not "at risk" or others who have interacted with those people. Because of the way this virus spreads (masks protect from spread more than from being infected) just isolating the "at risk" will not do enough to get this dumpster fire under control.

 

[GoofGoof]

And that's the key, right there. The "at risk" don't live in their own, exclusive reality. They ultimately have to interact at some point with people who are not "at risk" or others who have interacted with those people. Because of the way this virus spreads (masks protect from spread more than from being infected) just isolating the "at risk" will not do enough to get this dumpster fire under control.

I’ve yet to see a realistic plan where we can isolate the at risk and let everyone else do what they want. It’s a nice concept but if it was that easy we would already be doing it. It’s mostly just a buzz phrase for people who want to be able to do what they want without restrictions but don’t want to be called selfish. I’m open to outside the box thinking but I don’t see how that plan would work and it would be a disaster for the economy at large to remove that many workers and consumers from most activity.

 

[Lilofan]

Would we have to close everything on Sunday? I’d actually be Ok with that if it gets us out of this

Visiting NJ, there are parts of the state I saw that life can go well with being closed on Sundays.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

A point many seem to overlook is the individuals who are at risk but don't even know they're at risk. Underlying health conditions that aren't presenting any issues can be present in people who are seemingly very healthy.

 

[networkpro]

Visiting NJ, there are parts of the state I saw that life can go well with being closed on Sundays.

Voluntarily?

 

[JoeCamel]

Voluntarily?

Watched a woman at the checkout this morning with a sunday paper and a bottle of wine, I think she had plans for the day. 7:30 am too early to buy wine she found out........

 

[Lilofan]

Voluntarily?

Some counties in NJ I've learned operate under " blue laws ".

 

[sullyinMT]

Some counties in NJ I've learned operate under " blue laws ".

Don’t know if it has since changed, but just before we left Atlanta there was a GA ballot initiative to allow liquor stores to open on Sundays. The biggest opponent (financially) of the bill was the liquor store owners themselves. They didn’t want to pay staff for what would likely be very slow days, and also had the illusion of demand by presumptive “panic buying” on Saturday nights.

 

[JoeCamel]

Don’t know if it has since changed, but just before we left Atlanta there was a GA ballot initiative to allow liquor stores to open on Sundays. The biggest opponent (financially) of the bill was the liquor store owners themselves. They didn’t want to pay staff for what would likely be very slow days, and also had the illusion of demand by presumptive “panic buying” on Saturday nights.

Local pressure too, if they are selling booze while people go to church then out to meals and gatherings it kinda places your business against the community norms. Luv ya on saturday night but denounce you sunday morning

 

[_caleb]

DLR is closed is closed for no reason except for politics.

This says a lot about how you view the world.

Disney would make money plus the nation would have one set of standards proven to work. Just a thought.

Where are you getting the idea that WDW’s COVID protocols have been “proven to work?” How many people have contracted COVID at the parks/Disney Springs since they reopened?