I don’t disagree with any of that.
1. Sweet Jesus, how did anyone not know? (That question will go unresolved and stick with me till my grave)
The reckless endangerment is not limited to those who have symptoms or those who know they are infected.
It’s a fair point. If I lived in Central America or the Middle East I’d be pretty annoyed that Australia gets to be its own continent while we just get lumped in with a bunch of other random people....and don’t get me started on AntarcticaIf Pluto got defenestrated from planetary status, then Australia should likewise from continent-hood. I said what I said
The reckless endangerment is not limited to those who have symptoms or those who know they are infected.
Where does the 99% chance that they are not infected and contagious come from?
As for your quote about the meaning of the word life, why not finish it from your source instead of taking it out of context?
"That said, government sources takes many actions that impact the full exercise of individuals’ quality of life, including through the use of policies to affect poverty levels, health care, physical security, and individual dignity.
Here are some current events and philosophical outlooks about the path that governments must tread in order to provide individuals the greatest opportunity and probability of exercising their most natural right — existence."
'Life' in the Declaration of Independence
www.thepursuitofhappiness.com › life
Until we can all be tested daily on the cheap via home test without it needing to be sent out or need to go anywhere to do the test, including folks without health insurance and the unemployed, we deal with the undisputed (unless one is total idiot) fact that there are asymptomatic carriers who are also transmitters.
The number of those Typhoid Marys may be high, or they may be low.
I could test negative today, pick it up tomorrow, not know it, and spread it, and there lies the problem, unless I can test. Add to that the incubation period where I may have it, but not test positive for it depending on how far it is through my system and that's just for being asymptomatic. We have two people in our house who leave to go to work. One is two days per week, the other is five.
As for the masks, for them to be effective, they need to be worn properly by all and they also need to be multi-layered and properly fitting, not single layer novelty masks. I was in the supermarket a couple of weeks ago and a customer was wearing a cheap mask with nose clearly sticking out while in the store, but in the outer lobby, technically still inside the store on the way out, he pulled it off even though people were clearly nearby.
We are at the point now where shopping carts are not always cleaned between customers, depending on the store and even then it's just the handles, so it's up to us individually to make sure things are sanitized before using anything in public.
Yes, people are tired of this, but until there is a vaccine AND a large percentage of people take it, also keeping good habits the whole time until there is a successful vaccine implemented (which are two other discussions), we will be at this for a while.
I see the drop in good habits and more people walking around without their noses covered by the masks as a clear "statement".
Ignorance and misplaced attitudes by those and their silent statement like that are not helping.
I see immediate neighbors next door and across the street having large 10+ gatherings with no distancing and no masks ( limit in a home in NJ is currently 25) , while they kept the good habits back in April, but have since dropped them.
Those folks, I am reasonably sure, go to other similar gatherings which I don't see.
It's going to be a long while more without all those things in place.
Absolutely. And I 100% agree. My issue is the statement “the virus has to run its course” is viewed as an anti shutdown sentiment. It’s a reality check that regardless of which side of the argument one takes. Chill the F out and look at facts. Neither side has the answer and won’t have it. At some point this will be over but for now let’s try and save lives through mitigation but also not eliminate everything that sustains life too (cancer prescreenings, elective surgery, economic productions, etc). Whether you like Trump or not he is right. We have to live with the virus for the time being. Now certainly we should protect ourselves more than he eludes but the concept of a shutdown being the end all be all like so many want and think does nothing to get us past the virus. Sorry. This is not aimed at you goof, but instead this board. Everyone needs to understand their isn’t a winning side of this argument. Both are right in ways both are wrong in ways. But to think we can have power of nature or a higher being based on your belief is a foolish endeavor.
“The virus has to run it’s course” is one of the top anti-restrictions talking points. I understand you may not be saying it that way but it is one of the top reasons given why restrictions should be lifted and is why people (me included) were assuming that’s what you mean. As I said, I agree with people that we have to learn to live with the virus because it isn’t going to just vanish, but that doesn’t mean remove all restrictions and just let it rip. IMHO learning to live with the virus is keeping smart and relatively simple restrictions in place. Wear a mask whenever in public, practice social distancing, avoid large group gatherings (especially indoors and even in private residences), limit indoor dining and places where distancing and/or masks cannot be practiced, practice a higher level of hygiene and if you are sick or suspect you came in contact with someone positive get tested and cooperate with contact tracing efforts to help reduce the spread. Life won’t be back to normal, but if we all did all of these things the vast majority of our economy would be open and we would have less sick people, less hospitalizations and less deaths. Wins across the board with a little bit of sacrificing getting to do exactly what we want.
Based on the last few days, it looks like the positivity is going to continue to climb. Holding steady now around 5%, before it was holding steady around 4%.
People crave certainty and control, and this virus is incompatible with both of those things. With respect to "control," you're on a WDW planning site where people have been trained to map out every detail of their vacations years in advance, so your audience probably doesn't include the "let's give it time and see what happens" crowd. They'll admit to not knowing what will happen, then say "sorry to tell you this, but [insert whatever]" is going to happen.
I'll let everyone know to stop talking about "American exceptionalism" because you really can't compare countries to one another -- they're just so different! Without comparisons, none can be 'exceptional.'
