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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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lazyboy97o
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The coaster track is not really in need of protection and the canopy isn’t much. The more likely reason the canopy will be completed is because of its self supporting design. Leaving all of the temporary shoring is not really an option for a prolonged period of time.
RSoxNo1
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Wait, so the guy that stole Buzzy is to blame for COVID?
Brer Oswald
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Yeah. He revealed it to me over Discord last year. I thought he was just pulling my leg.
Giss Neric
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So if that is the case, the main reason they might not open this year is due to lack of castmembers to operate and safety right?
I could imagine not wanting another RotR VQ mess on their hands. And as Martin and others have been saying, some in Disney want to save the big guns for a "back to Disney" campaign post-vaccine.
Giss Neric
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Great point, but for me the 50th is already the ultimate "back to Disney" campaign next year anyways. Oh well, that is more likely going to happen.
ilovetotravel1977
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I was hoping this ride was going to be open by the 50th as we are going first week of December. I was already sad that GotG was getting pushed to 2022, but if this gets bumped as well, that will be a bummer. The Christmas stuff / CLP is really the draw for us next time.
Jrb1979
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I hear the park on the other side of town has a new attraction coming in spring. Maybe now is the time for people to come to the dark side.
JoeCamel
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I wonder if that is a feature not a flaw for WDW management?
surfdawg
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I think a lot of AP Disney locals will be switching their passes to other Central Florida Parks, or just cancelling any form of annual passes all together due to the virus and the worsened economy that's looming ahead. It's going to be hard for many to continue paying such a premium when SEAS is debuting two new coasters next year, one of which is going to be one of the best in the world. Uni is also going to debut another top ten coaster with Velocicoaster, it's going to be a hard sell to convince pass-holders to stay in the Disney bubble when all of the competition is ramping it up with unique, thrilling additions, while Disney slows construction and chooses to keep attractions closed. Especially when all of their competitors offer passes that appeal to locals for a much lower price.
It makes sense to not debut attractions this year, but come next year if the world is even in a slightly better place, Disney is going to be setting themselves up on a trajectory towards failure. In the 2010's, we saw Universal absolutely wipe the floor with Disney by continually pushing the limits and creating new and unique attractions nearly ever year. While the quality of some of them can be questionable, *glares at F&F*, there's no denying that this rapid expansion method accelerated Universal from being just another park down the road to a full on vacation destination, and a threat to WDW. If they continue to sit idle and let their competitors build these new and unique attractions while Disney works at a snails pace on the same four attractions that have been announced since nearly D23 2016, I don't think this is going to be the best decade for the parks.
However, Tron looks cool. A little redundant to put an indoor roller coaster right next to a classic indoor roller coaster, if anything it just makes SM looks vastly outdated in comparison, but still cool nonetheless. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this addition is going to allow them to close down SM for an extensive refurb to the likes of DL in 2005 with new on-board audio and re-tracking. Tron is definitely going to be an absolute must-ride at the resort, and will help add even more capacity to the already vastly overcrowded MK.
Dan Deesnee
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I can see Universal going full steam ahead with Epic Universe. I read an interesting article about 6 months ago talking about how times like this are when you want to go ALL IN on investing in new attractions and rides. The thought being that as things improve and get back to normal in 2-3 years instead of waiting and having not much new once people are travelling again, you will be debuting brand new attractions to pull in the massive crowds.
It makes sense. Why stop / slow / delay production now? It will just make the low crowd issue drag on even longer. Then once people are travelling again, you won't have anything new to attract them for 2-3 years. If one park invests now and opens some new amazing stuff in 2022-2024, they will wipe the floor with the parks that have nothing new debuting between 2023-2025 due to covid delays / cancels.
The reason for delays is always cost savings, but that is short sighted. Increase debt levels and keep the new projects moving along and if anything, ramp it up. That is how you crush the competition in the next 5 years.
It makes sense. Why stop / slow / delay production now? It will just make the low crowd issue drag on even longer. Then once people are travelling again, you won't have anything new to attract them for 2-3 years. If one park invests now and opens some new amazing stuff in 2022-2024, they will wipe the floor with the parks that have nothing new debuting between 2023-2025 due to covid delays / cancels.
The reason for delays is always cost savings, but that is short sighted. Increase debt levels and keep the new projects moving along and if anything, ramp it up. That is how you crush the competition in the next 5 years.
orky8
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They've already announced Epic Universe is paused. Not that I disagree with you, as in two years when Covid is over and people are really itching to travel, would be a great time to have this open.
Dan Deesnee
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Yep I saw that. Wouldn't shock me though if they are either just saying that and continuing to move forward behind the scenes to not tip their hand to Disney (this is a high stakes game in a very competitive industry). It also might just be paused but I could see it getting back up and going forward quickly and I would wager they don't make too many cuts to what was planned. Just speculation.
Disney and Universal will not be enemies when it comes to encouraging people to come back. As much as we want to believe they are, both companies will benefit from each other moving forward at least till a form of normal returns.
lazyboy97o
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Huge layoffs have hit Universal Creative. Kind of hard to secretly keep moving as you were when you don’t have those people any more.
Dan Deesnee
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Well we don't have the specifics. I would imagine a lot of the Creatives who got let go might have been more critical to later stages of the Epic Universe development.
And let's not kid ourselves here. Disney and Universal for sure want tourists flooding back into the parks but they are running multi billion dollar businesses. I don't think either of them wants the other to fail / die off entirely but Universal would love to be the top park. Just depends on how fearful they are of investing big right now, the near and mid term future, debt levels, etc. etc.
lazyboy97o
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Epic Universe was about to start vertical construction. That’s fairly late into design.