On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[HongKongFooy]

Disney Legend and actor Robert Downey Jr go to meal right after he gets released from prison every time is In-N-Out Burger.

To the other extreme to celebrate my lack of freedom and imminent death before an execution there is a sporting chance I might request a "double double" as a last meal but bunless to cut out the unnecessary carbs.

 

[crispy]

So what happens when you are on unemployment’s benefits, and the extended PEUC benefits run out, what other options are there For Laid off CM?

They do what everyone else in the world has to do...look for another job. I also agree that that they need to start looking today and not wait until their benefits run out. It sucks, but you do what you gotta do until you find a job. It's also worse for them because their local market is now flooded with thousands of others who are on the same boat. Relocating to a bettrr job market may be a good option if they can swing it.

 

[flynnibus]

They make good food, have consistently good service and clean stores, and they have record setting per-store profits.

It’s so simple that you’d think other companies would figure out what works.

Hobby Lobby around here looks like a 1978 Kmart. dated styling, amenities, and even lighting.

The reason why other stores just don't copy is similar to why copies of Disneyland fail. It takes true commitment. People build new fresh looks... then fail to invest in the upkeep. Or duplicate the employee standards, but don't invest in the training and management to maintain it.

It always comes back to money... they get pressed and cut spending... see no short term impact.. and just keep going.

Often people build a premium product, and simply don't succeed enough to make it sustainable, then cut costs to try to make it float. Then the new norm becomes the standard going forward.. and other stuff is seen as 'excessive'

Some just have one.. but not the other. Chic Fi Fa service won't save a crappy product.

The real common thread (IMO) - is the personally invested and engaged management that buys into the principles - not just someone who applies them. This is why it's so hard to scale these successful models (and why chains like CFA are so controlling and chains like InO focused on limited expansion).

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Hobby Lobby around here looks like a 1978 Kmart. dated styling, amenities, and even lighting.

The one near me does as well. But they are bringing in billions in revenue (billions with a b) so it doesn’t seem like their customers care about the dated style.

 

[kingdead]

The one near me does as well. But they are making huge profits (billions with a b) so it doesn’t seem like their customers care about the dated style.

Billions? How? Is it just markup/not much need for labor/product never goes bad?

 

[TheMagus]

So what happens when you are on unemployment’s benefits, and the extended PEUC benefits run out, what other options are there For Laid off CM?

They need to find another job.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

This is why it's so hard to scale these successful models (and why chains like CFA are so controlling and chains like InO focused on limited expansion).

It can be scaled though. Chik has over 2,500 locations.

 

[Ldno]

They do what everyone else in the world has to do...look for another job. I also agree that that they need to start looking today and not wait until their benefits run out. It sucks, but you do what you gotta do until you find a job. It's also worse for them because their local market is now flooded with thousands of others who are on the same boat. Relocating to a bettrr job market may be a good option if they can swing it.

It’s worse, more qualified individuals are jobless also getting better opportunities, im working on certifications now because degrees don’t cut it anymore.

I have been legit told my resume is impeccable but i need more certs and nano degrees. 60 job applications in a month and still nothing

First off, you don't wait until the benefits run out. You start scrambling on day one, taking anything available. Of course that's very difficult in a state like CA where so many things have been kept closed. But grocery stores, Wal-mart, Target and the like have continued to hire. You start driving for Uber. You become a personal shopper, that sort of thing. The good news is that it doesn't take that much to replace what Disney paid.

There’s some jobs that aren’t open 24/7 anymore, where you can still be part time employed and still get unemployment but that is running out super fast already, just curious how is everyone is managing to get by.

 

[flynnibus]

It can be scaled though. Chik has over 2,500 locations.

Which is small compared to it's peers... Wendy's is 2x that, Burger King 3x, McDonalds more than 5x that... (all in the US). Subway is nearly 10x that.

CFA also has extremely tight controls over it's franchisees and locations. The company actually owns the location, and the locals are just 'operators'.

Point being... they do things very differently as part of their scheme to maintain their brand and customer experience. It's not just about 'follow what they are doing...' - the difference is engrained deeply in how they operate and maintain that control.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Which is small compared to it's peers... Wendy's is 2x that, Burger King 3x, McDonalds more than 5x that... (all in the US). Subway is nearly 10x that.

CFA also has extremely tight controls over it's franchisees and locations. The company actually owns the location, and the locals are just 'operators'.

Point being... they do things very differently as part of their scheme to maintain their brand and customer experience. It's not just about 'follow what they are doing...' - the difference is engrained deeply in how they operate and maintain that control.

Why are you comparing them to other companies? That has nothing to do with the fact that they can scale. 2,000 stores means they can scale.

Six flags has more parks than Disney, doesn’t mean they are the better run company.

And yes, the tight control is a reason for their success imho.

 

[flynnibus]

The one near me does as well. But they are making huge profits (billions with a b) so it doesn’t seem like their customers care about the dated style.

Their revenues are estimated at 5 billion... I'm sure HL would love having 20-40% net profit margins but I'm pretty confident that's not the case

 

[Goofyernmost]

They make good food, have consistently good service and clean stores, and they have record setting per-store profits.

It’s so simple that you’d think other companies would figure out what works.

Outside of the fast food industry, you can add Hobby Lobby and Herschend Entertainment to the list of conservative owned, private companies that seem to get it.

They get business, but that's about it. As far as social matters they are some of the worst.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

As far as social matters they are some of the worst.

That’s a debate for the political forum.

 

[flynnibus]

Why are you comparing them to other companies? That has nothing to do with the fact that they can scale.

Because you stated "It’s so simple that you’d think other companies would figure out what work"

The point was as stated... a good portion of that success is hard to replicate at scale. And what is scale in that industry? Let's look at the competitors... and the kinds of companies that have not figured out how to replicate their success in their own product. Hence why someone would 'compare them to other companies' when someone postulates why 'other companies' haven't figured out how to duplicate their success.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The one near me does as well. But they are bringing in billions in revenue (billions with a b) so it doesn’t seem like their customers care about the dated style.

Their revenues are estimated at 5 billion... I'm sure HL would love having 20-40% net profit margins but I'm pretty confident that's not the case

Happy now? This game is getting old.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Billions? How? Is it just markup/not much need for labor/product never goes bad?

I good drug pusher cannot make even close to that. I think the numbers need to be re-evaluated. I'm sure the main company makes that much, but an individual store, nope, can't buy it. Chic-fil-A is company owned so over all profits are possible, but independant franchises , not a chance.

 

[Goofyernmost]

To the other extreme to celebrate my lack of freedom and imminent death before an execution there is a sporting chance I might request a "double double" as a last meal but bunless to cut out the unnecessary carbs.

Absolutely... those carbs could kill a person.

 

[Goofyernmost]

That’s a debate for the political forum.

Wasn't up for debate. And social matters are social not political unless someone makes it so. And this is "social media".

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Wasn't up for debate. And social matters are social not political unless someone makes it so.

It is up for debate. But again, not in this forum.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It is up for debate. But again, not in this forum.

I guess you are in charge of classifying things for everyone else! Sorry, I didn't know that!