Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[lazyboy97o]

Ive never said anyone’s died from a vaccine. I think you might be confused.

You made a clear implication that lets you knowingly dance around the truth.

 

[Miss Bella]

You made a clear implication that lets you knowingly dance around the truth.

If dancing around the truth is supporting people’s right to choose what medications they take then I guess so.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

If dancing around the truth is supporting people’s right to choose what medications they take then I guess so.

a vaccine is not a medication. But you're a nurse so you know that already.

 

[lazyboy97o]

If dancing around the truth is supporting people’s right to choose what medications they take then I guess so.

Falsely alluding to a vaccine and the disease having similar risks is now a statement of choice?

 

[Miss Bella]

a vaccine is not a medication. But you're a nurse so you know that already.

Its the same principle, but you know that.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Its the same principle, but you know that.

one is used for PREVENTING an illness, the other is used for TREATING the illness, so not really.

 

[Miss Bella]

one is used for PREVENTING an illness, the other is used for TREATING the illness, so not really.

Why does that matter. Apparantly you feel vaccines should be mandated. Drug, vaccine or medication....peoples should be free to choose.

 

[JoeCamel]

No, I am implying that there will be SOME people who die from the vaccine. And if that person was otherwise healthy but they take a vaccine and die from the vaccine is that worth it? If you know that is a risk and choose to go with the odds I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is people acting like there is NO risk to taking a vaccine or trying to make people who have valid questions or opinions look like they are misinformed idiots who just listen to celebrities. Many people are not anti-vaxx but they do question how vaccines are developed and administered.

Additionally I work in pharma and belong to a facebook group with other pharma professionals and most are very weary of taking a COVID vaccine when it first comes out since we all know that this is being rushed. We just don't know what we don't know. It could be that the death rate from the vaccine is higher than actually getting COVID. We won't know until it is administered widely to the population and that is scary!

Weary? I think they may be wary but can't be tired from a vaccine that does not exist yet.

 

[CJR]

Disneyland’s local area is also significantly more dense than Walt Disney World’s with Los Angeles County in particular still having significantly more cases than neighboring counties. One of the proposed restrictions rejected by the parks was only allowing people within 120 miles of the park to visit.

I'm aware about that, I lived in LA and still have family there, but theme park reservations will mute that point. Capacity will be controlled.

Especially if going to Disneyland is not a priority for most Californians, as someone else here said, getting theme park reservations should be as tolerable as it is in Florida.

I'm aware of the proposal too, but it's not consistent with shopping malls, movie theaters, or other places reopening. There's a reason they backed off that proposal, IMHO.

I will give it to you that no one probably goes to California to shop (at least not soley) or see a movie.

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[oceanbreeze77]

Why does that matter. Apparantly you feel vaccines should be mandated.

How you got that from a few statements where I explain that there is a difference between a vaccine and a medication, I may never know, but sure.

 

[Miss Bella]

How you got that from a few statements where I explain that there is a difference between a vaccine and a medication, I may never know, but sure.

I used the term medication in general terms, but I think you knew what I meant.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I used the term medication in general terms, but I think you knew what I meant.

No I didn't. Because even I know theres a difference

 

[Miss Bella]

No I didn't. Because even I know theres a difference

OK

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disneyland won't be the attractive place it was when it reopens, so I don't see thousands of non-vloggers rushing down to it when FL is open with more entertainment. So, out of state visitors will be even lower of a percentage than it was before, IMO.

I would peronsally be more attracted to Disneyland right now. No need for transportation to and from the parks, more outdoor waiting areas.

I don’t think there would be less entertainment at Disneyland than Disney World.

 

[FeelsSoGoodToBeBad]

Apparently Chapek is claiming the parks are STILL operating at 25% and will continue to.

And apparently I was too quick to laugh! Here's an article from The Motley Fool:

Is Disney World Really Operating at 25% Capacity? | The Motley Fool

The world's largest theme park operator might be limiting Florida theme park attendance to a quarter of its capacity, but there are reasons it seems like it's more than that.

www.fool.com

 

[CJR]

I would peronsally be more attracted to Disneyland right now. No need for transportation to and from the parks, more outdoor waiting areas.

I don’t think there would be less entertainment at Disneyland than Disney World.

You mean "more than WDW", I was referring to percentage of out of state guests pre-covid.

Couple of minor notes, which you've probably taken into account. 1. Probably no park hopping, helps control capacity and relieves esplanade crowding. 2. After the GF bridge opens, FL will be somewhat less reliant on transit for MK, at least, although the Boardwalk hotels can walk to both DHS and EPCOT already.

They just cut two major stage shows in CA while Florida is in the process of reopening theirs. More are coming too (in FL), from the sound of things. It's hard to say though, just how much and how long some things will be dark. Point is that a lot could be back in FL before DL even reopens its gates. We'll see though, that's hard to predict.

 

[Miss Bella]

And apparently I was too quick to laugh! Here's an article from The Motley Fool:

Is Disney World Really Operating at 25% Capacity? | The Motley Fool

The world's largest theme park operator might be limiting Florida theme park attendance to a quarter of its capacity, but there are reasons it seems like it's more than that.

www.fool.com

It sounds accurate. From what I understand the only time they normally reach full capacity is Christmas week.

 

[wdisney9000]

You should have pulled out your calculator. I said the chances of an anaphylaxis reaction from a vaccine is 1 in every million doses, or 0.0001%.

Death from such a reaction would be even rarer. "An estimated, 1% of hospitalizations and 0.1% of emergency department attendances for anaphylaxis have a fatal outcome." Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5589409/

My assumption is you think you're making some amazing point about vaccine risk vs. risk of dying from COVID. The real CDC estimate on the COVID-19 mortality rate is 0.65% -- 6.5 times higher than the seasonal flu and 6,500 times higher than the risk of an anaphylaxis reaction from a vaccine.

You've got it all figured out.

 

[Lilofan]

Instead of a politics label, threads like this should just carry a picture of a flaming dumpster.

Description of an elected official

 

[GoofGoof]

So it's like a 99.97% chance that everything will be fine? No need to panic or even be concerned at all, right?

Those odds sound similar to a virus I’ve heard of.

1 per million is actually 99.9999% survival or put another way with Covid deaths in the US so far 600+ people per million have died from Covid so it’s 600 times more deadly than a vaccine . With those stats I assume the “Covid is no big deal” crowd will gladly line up for the vaccine.

The other benefit of a vaccine is we all get to go back to normal life. For the sake of society and the economy and all the people out of work and all the people who are high risk and all the people who are suicidal I would hope people would consider taking the vaccine.