peter11435
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Actually no. Covid 19, a global pandemic that has killed 767,000 people and negatively impacted the health of millions is the cause of those things.
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GoofGoof
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Isn’t that the same as any article that gets posted here where you claim it’s media fear mongering?
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xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Baseless. It’s baseless. The cdc put out a 9 page paper on it. Yahoo reported on that paper. It’s baseless though.
lazyboy97o
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And making kids watch videos and do busy work because their teacher is suddenly out and there aren’t enough substitutes is a great way to show you’re not afraid.
xdan0920
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You are literally describing virtual learning.
GoofGoof
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Teen suicide has always been an issue. 25% seems really ominous, but if you look at history 29% of high school students said they considered suicide in 1991 and it’s moved between that high down to around 17% more recently. When you look at it that way you realize it’s not all Covid related. There’s also a great deal of stress from Covid itself not just lockdowns. Were there no suicides in Montana where they had no lockdowns?
lazyboy97o
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I’m not saying virtual learning is good or great. I don’t like it. I don’t like lockdowns as an idea. But unlike you I’m not going to ignore the reality of what continuing on means and pretend it will magically take care of itself. Many schools are already overcrowded and lacking in sufficient substitute teachers. Ignoring that and just opening schools won’t make things any better, but you’ll get to shout about how you’re not afraid.
GoofGoof
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My point is you call other people out for fear mongering when they talk about CDC guidelines or other scientific studies that were reported on, but when you post something ominous it’s somehow not fear mongering?
hopemax
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I specifically mentioned São Paulo yesterday. It was the epicenter in Brazil in May and it is still the epicenter in August.
peter11435
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Because they don’t consider it fear mongering if they can use it to their advantage to push their agenda.
LukeS7
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Ah yes, a study of ~5,400 people that somehow concluded 1,350 young people are representative of 25% of the population (of young people)Personal Finance Home Page - Yahoo Finance
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Also, the study states that this is from the crisis in general, NOT specifically from lockdowns.
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GoofGoof
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In reality nobody is really fear mongering. I was just pointing out a repeated hypocrisy here. I think there are some very valid physical health concerns related to Covid. There are also some very valid mental health concerns. I just don’t see how the physical health concerns should be no big deal but mental health is. I also don’t see how all mental health issues are only related to the lockdown. When kids are seeing death and sickness that’s also a strain on their mental state. There’s no way to know it’s all from lockdowns alone.
Flugell
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I’m really worried that young people are considering suicide in greater numbers but to be absolutely brutally honest they have a choice. They choose to end their lives. We lost 2 family friends who committed suicide aged 24 in 2017 long before Coronavirus was heard of. The distress and guilt that was felt by their families is unimaginable but the youngsters made the active choice to end their lives. Those who have died from Coronavirus did not choose their outcome.
People who are feeling desperate need support, love, help and guidance. I feel that news articles estimating the number of people who are contemplating ending their lives normalises the thoughts and outcomes. An article saying if you are feeling that you can’t face going on with life then seek help, here is a list of organisations that can help at the beginning of the article would be more supportive. I realise there is an additional paragraph in italics but how many young, vulnerable people will continue reading to the end to find it?
I beg anyone feeling that life has no meaning, please consider the impact on your family and friends talk to them, surely this would be more constructive.
Please don’t feel I am dismissing the stress, strain and desperation of people who feel that there is no future, my personal experience makes me all too aware that this happens. It also makes me aware that it was a choice and not caused by a pandemic which selects victims at random.
If you know anyone that you suspect is going under, reach out and help, it may just make a difference.
People who are feeling desperate need support, love, help and guidance. I feel that news articles estimating the number of people who are contemplating ending their lives normalises the thoughts and outcomes. An article saying if you are feeling that you can’t face going on with life then seek help, here is a list of organisations that can help at the beginning of the article would be more supportive. I realise there is an additional paragraph in italics but how many young, vulnerable people will continue reading to the end to find it?
I beg anyone feeling that life has no meaning, please consider the impact on your family and friends talk to them, surely this would be more constructive.
Please don’t feel I am dismissing the stress, strain and desperation of people who feel that there is no future, my personal experience makes me all too aware that this happens. It also makes me aware that it was a choice and not caused by a pandemic which selects victims at random.
If you know anyone that you suspect is going under, reach out and help, it may just make a difference.
Chip Chipperson
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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There's also Eduardo Rodriguez of the Boston Red Sox who won't be able to pitch this season because COVID-19 caused myocarditis. He's 27 years old and was initially cleared to return to the team on July 18 but then after a week they discovered the heart issue. His doctors told him 10-20% of COVID-19 patients are diagnosed with myocarditis.
Heart issue ends season for Red Sox's Rodriguez
Red Sox lefty Eduardo Rodriguez won't pitch this season after being diagnosed with heart inflammation that team doctors believe was caused by the pitcher's battle with the coronavirus.
GoofGoof
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That’s one of the reasons the Big Ten cancelled their football season too. They had several players with similar issues.There's also Eduardo Rodriguez of the Boston Red Sox who won't be able to pitch this season because COVID-19 caused myocarditis. He's 27 years old and was initially cleared to return to the team on July 18 but then after a week they discovered the heart issue. His doctors told him 10-20% of COVID-19 patients are diagnosed with myocarditis.
Heart issue ends season for Red Sox's Rodriguez
Red Sox lefty Eduardo Rodriguez won't pitch this season after being diagnosed with heart inflammation that team doctors believe was caused by the pitcher's battle with the coronavirus.www.espn.com
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I imagine these kids are going to have a greater chance of getting Covid not playing football this season than actually having the season and playing. Just my opinion though.
Yeah, but you know football players: They're so easily cowed by fear mongering, those wusses.
Jrb1979
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Its a possibility. I look at that the schools don't want to have to deal with that responsibility.I imagine these kids are going to have a greater chance of getting Covid not playing football this season than actually having the season and playing. Just my opinion though.
Chomama
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It is factual that big 10 was seeing kids with new heart damage from Covid 19. Enough to feel unsafe playing. The concern is that the heart damage combined with the heavy exertion from football could cause permanent damage or even death. I am
Not saying anyone knows of that damage will be permanent but the big 10 did not feel it was worth the risk to find out what happens when a student athlete has myocarditis from
Covid
Not saying anyone knows of that damage will be permanent but the big 10 did not feel it was worth the risk to find out what happens when a student athlete has myocarditis from
Covid
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