Heppenheimer
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How long immunity lasts from infection has no bearing on the duration of vaccine-induced immunity.
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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xdan0920
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So deaths are trending down. Hospitalizations are way down, never having overwhelmed hospitals. Deaths never approached the northeast numbers. Looks like the south, and Florida in particular, stared down Covid and came out ahead. It’s a nasty disease, and is uniquely nasty towards the elderly, but upending society was never the answer. Very thankful for Florida, very thankful for Arizona, very thankful for Texas, and Sweden. I pray we have learned our lessons. Though I doubt we have, if this thread is anything to go by.
Jrb1979
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It has upended society. Lots of people ended up being laid off anyways. Shutdown or not people are still choosing to stay in. Doing nothing or locking down which you are against has ended in the same result with people not working.
GoofGoof
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Since Texas, Arizona and Florida have mask requirements in all of the major population centers and each state has implemented a version of a bar ban and has also put further restrictions on indoor dining are you saying that the lessons learned are that masks, bar bans and significantly reduced indoor dining will lead to a reduction in cases? I sure hope you are right and we learned that lesson and it leads to a nationwide push to implement what appears to be very effective rules. I also hope this settles once and for all the ridiculous debate. These places had bars open, no masks and full indoor dining. Cases surged. Each state pulled back on bars and indoor dining and masks were implemented either statewide or at the local level and cases started to come down. Seems pretty easy to understand.
JoeCamel
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Yep, the problem is when people feel complacent. See what happened before this spike. If they go back to doing what they did before without modification we will be here again hoping for the end of the spike.
hopemax
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And Brazil? What are the lessons of Brazil?
GoofGoof
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Nothing really new here, just more analysis on the struggling parks:
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Something's Not Right at Disney World and Universal Orlando | The Motley Fool
Central Florida theme parks went through a lot to get going again, but now they're showing signs of retreating.
RaiseTheShields
Active Member
I’m sorry....what’s a brazil? What can the sunbelt do for you?
hopemax
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The Sunbelt has the bestest T-cell cross reactive immunity.I’m sorry....what’s a brazil? What can the sunbelt do for you?
hopemax
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So speaking about the Sunbelt, my DH was just telling me about the interview an LSU infectious disease expert, on the SEC committee, gave with The Athletic concerning the safety of playing football. Do you remember, when I mentioned the video of the GA school board member who suggested that since close contacts are designated as someone who has spent 15 minutes in the vicinity of an infected person, they should re-seat students every 14 minutes...
Well, apparently this person is also taking the CDC guideline of 15 minutes quite literally. Opposing linemen aren't considered close-contacts because each play only lasts 30 seconds or so. So you don't have to worry about that there are, on average, 72 plays by an offense in a top tier college level game, 30 seconds of, "in your face, high exertion, heavier breathing than normal talking", or 36 minutes worth per game, because it wasn't 15 *uninterrupted* minutes.
Now, I am not an infectious disease expert, but I thought the thing is number of virus particles you breathe in reaching a high enough threshold. I don't think the virus cares if they shoot out for 30 seconds, then rest for a minute or two for the next play, then shoot out again. Or a less intense, but more constant stream for 15 minutes. I would have thought that the "15 minutes of interrupted contact" was a guideline for normal circumstances, and atypical circumstances such as football would have a different set of guidelines.
Well, apparently this person is also taking the CDC guideline of 15 minutes quite literally. Opposing linemen aren't considered close-contacts because each play only lasts 30 seconds or so. So you don't have to worry about that there are, on average, 72 plays by an offense in a top tier college level game, 30 seconds of, "in your face, high exertion, heavier breathing than normal talking", or 36 minutes worth per game, because it wasn't 15 *uninterrupted* minutes.
Now, I am not an infectious disease expert, but I thought the thing is number of virus particles you breathe in reaching a high enough threshold. I don't think the virus cares if they shoot out for 30 seconds, then rest for a minute or two for the next play, then shoot out again. Or a less intense, but more constant stream for 15 minutes. I would have thought that the "15 minutes of interrupted contact" was a guideline for normal circumstances, and atypical circumstances such as football would have a different set of guidelines.
mickey0825
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We had a trip for this past week planned that we canceled about a month ago. One of the biggest factors for us was the limited experiences and masks. We live in NY, so we took a mini trip to Hershey Park. Spent the day yesterday at the park from 10am-5pm, and like Disney we were required to wear masks in the park. Weather was decent...low - mid 80's not bad humidity and honestly the masks were a huge pain. For one day, we were able to put up with it. Those of you going for a week in Florida heat and humidity, and wearing masks all day, I give you a lot of credit. I honestly don't know how it isn't unbearable, but if you can manage it, I say that's great. For us, just no chance we'll be going until the mask requirement is gone. I know that may mean not going for a year or two (personally I think masks will be required until at least 2022) but I guess we'll just have to wait.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
That’s rich. Those states are doing it right now? Good lord.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Be more specific. Brazil is HUGE. Is it similar to how the US has had two separate outbreaks delineated by geography? Or are you not really interested in what’s going on there?
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
You know the answer to these snarky questions. They are young healthy athletes. They don’t care about Covid19. And they shouldn’t.
Similarly....Bars are closed in NJ. Google “nj house parties” these kids aren’t staying home bc bars are closed. They are making their own bars.
ImperfectPixie
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Ah the famous exception to the rule. Good job.You don't know what you're talking about.
He was an athlete in the best shape of his life. Then Covid-19 nearly killed him | CNN
It's been a little over two months since those touch-and-go days and Ahmad Ayyad still recovering. But he has a message -- for those who refuse to wear a mask during this pandemic, for those dismissive of public health guidance, for those in the prime of their health and feel invincible against...
ImperfectPixie
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There's more than one. Stop spreading misinformation.
GoofGoof
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Is anything I said not a fact? All of the states you listed made changes due to the surge in cases. All of them. Even FL. It’s a complete myth that they did nothing different and things just magically got better. It would make for a nice story, but it just didn’t happen.
xdan0920
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Jrb1979
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FIFY. School starts here next month and kids are going back. They just have to wear a mask and classes are smaller. This will end when either a vaccine comes or they come up with better treatment options. Neither of which exists right now.
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