On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Quite true and I need to remember that not everyone enjoys something like Tigris, for example.

I can take kingda ka or leave it. Fun...but forgettable. Coasters aren’t always about pushing limits.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I may be stubborn and definitely brash, but I am a conformist. I don't violate policies, particularly ones as trivial as here. I've been lurking for the last year or so and recently joined; plenty of time to read the tea leaves on the countless members who are supposed "fans" of WDW but spend their days deconstructing silly aspects of an amusement park as if their life is over because of the type of shingles WDI uses on a building isn't the right shade of black.

Wait, who's using ebony in place of obsidian???!!!

 

[hopemax]

I mean in terms of actually executing the removal of an experience and without lining up an immediate, ~one-for-one replacement. Has that ever substantially happened among anywhere in the Parks division before 20KLUTS?

20K was Sept 1994. So yes, Disneyland's Motor Boat Cruise was closed January 1993. Still hasn't been replaced. They took the operating budget and used it for the newly opened Mickey's Toontown.

 

[Jrb1979]

The old Gwazi was a fantastic twister. It’s was gone before it’s time

The replacement will be better. RMC has done wonders for coasters. They push the limits and are very intense. As good as B&M coasters are they never push the limits. They are what I call GP friendly.

 

[_caleb]

Is there a thread somewhere for discussion about rollercoasters at regional amusement parks?

 

[Jrb1979]

Is there a thread somewhere for discussion about rollercoasters at regional amusement parks?

Yes this one. Imagine how much better Disney would be if they had a coaster like Mako

 

[MonorailCoral]

Is there a thread somewhere for discussion about rollercoasters at regional amusement parks?

Certainly...See "Iger's disgraceful legacy is so bad, that we've had to resort to talking about rollercoasters at regional amusement parks".

 

[Jrb1979]

Certainly...See "Iger's disgraceful legacy is so bad, that we've had to resort to talking about rollercoasters at regional amusement parks".

I resent that remark. Disney wishes they had coasters as good as some of regional parks have.

 

[MonorailCoral]

I resent that remark. Disney wishes they had coasters as good as some of regional parks have.

Oh I wholeheartedly agree...Just linking the discussion to this thread.

 

[peter11435]

I resent that remark. Disney wishes they had coasters as good as some of regional parks have.

I don’t think Disney cares. If they wanted coasters like those they could cheaply and easily have them.

 

[Jrb1979]

I don’t think Disney cares. If they wanted coasters like those they could cheaply and easily have them.

They already did and it's being scrapped. World class coasters aren't cheap. Most B&M coasters are usually close to $25 million.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The replacement will be better. RMC has done wonders for coasters. They push the limits and are very intense. As good as B&M coasters are they never push the limits. They are what I call GP friendly.

You missed the part about “limits”.

The human body is prone to side effects from unnatural GeForces.

I once did 116 inversions at a park and loved it.

More than 6 don’t feel good now. Father Time is undefeated

 

[peter11435]

They already did and it's being scrapped. World class coasters aren't cheap. Most B&M coasters are usually close to $25 million.

$25 million is extremely cheap by Disney attractions standards. Seriously that’s pocket change.

 

[Jrb1979]

You missed the part about “limits”.

The human body is prone to side effects from unnatural GeForces.

I once did 116 inversions at a park and loved it.

More than 6 don’t feel good now. Father Time is undefeated

This is the next coaster in the US right now. It will be similar to what Iron Gwazi is going to be like. This pushes the limits.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They already did and it's being scrapped. World class coasters aren't cheap. Most B&M coasters are usually close to $25 million.

What’s being scrapped? What did I miss?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

$25 million is extremely cheap by Disney attractions standards. Seriously that’s pocket change.

Because they blow budgets to oblivion. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Jrb1979]

What’s being scrapped? What did I miss?

Primeval Whirl.

 

[pheneix]

How are they more susceptible to volatilities? Honest question, I don't see how it follows.

They drove off a squillion modest income middle class guests while hosing down their new core audience of lifer guests who visit several times per year (high revenue out of town demographics as Chapek puts it).

Said new audience is now dramatically “down scaled” as the business people say it. High credit lines don’t = incomes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is the next coaster in the US right now. It will be similar to what Iron Gwazi is going to be like. This pushes the limits.

The mean streak was AWFUL. Just a horrific back wrench that tried to overdue it.

Not that it’s unique. El toro is so jerky you just want it to end. And people love it.

The original gwazi was an up off your seat air time bat out of hell...with the dueling aspects just perfect. I know it suffered a bad fate...but I can’t put the basis ride anywhere near Mean Streak.

 

[peter11435]

Because they blow budgets to oblivion. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Oh you’re not wrong. Disney budgets are massively out of control. But the point stands that if Disney wanted one of these “great regional coasters” they could cheaply and easily have one. They could drop $25 million like its nothing. Heck, they’ll spend 10 times that amount on a D-Ticket.