On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

Beacon Joe

Well-Known Member
Ditto here. I only learned about it after a cast member commented on a university T shirt I happened to be wearing and we started talking.

That program is one of those things I wish I could have done. I guess my fatal mistake when I visited WDW after my Freshman year was not attempting to chat up CMs outside of the Norway pavilion.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Or maybe I'm just a very unlucky person and everyone else doing this would have a job within days of moving. Either way, I look at those kinds of responses and shake my head, because I went through a much easier version of what you suggest and still wouldn't wish it on anyone, and I otherwise generally like the idea of moving to a new city/area every now and then. It's easy to suggest doing something, actually doing what you suggest...good luck. I definitely don't want to try that again, 100% for real and on my own this time, unless I already have a job lined up/are transferring

Note I never said pickup and move on a dime... go back and read where I said 'what are you doing about it?' - Are you saving? Are you researching what it costs in other possible locations? Are you prioritizing your spending? Are you finding out what you NEED before moving, etc? I can guarantee you 95% of the people complaining about where they are now - are not doing those things to work out how to break the cycle. Just going around complaining about their town... and how it's so bad. Most people are afraid to move because they don't think they can afford it. Ok, so what are you doing to make it so you can afford it?

These are life changing decisions... but the entire point is "Are you working to change things, or are you gonna sit and just be miserable forever?"

You aren't stuck where you are - anyone telling you that is holding you back. People just have to be willing to do their part.

With the lockdown going on.. my niece's normal gig had no future. With all the J-1 visa students unable to come this year the beach resorts are DYING for people. So they got a group together, in one weekend found a seasonal rental and had 3 job offers in one day. She's only 17. They're living there now. Sure this is only temporary... but they're making money now vs nothing and making enough to bank savings to work out the next step. Or she could have just stayed at my sister's house for the summer twiddling her thumbs about how shutdown sucks.

My oldest kid had both her jobs shutdown by covid, as did her fiancé. After a few weeks, she found a job that would give her hours working the counter at a food place. Eventually one of her jobs came back, and in the interim kept pushing and found an even better full time job. So she's been working part time in two jobs even during the pandemic, and is setup to work full time plus one of those jobs part time starting later this month. This weekend they moved into their first house after living on their own for the last 2 years in an apartment. The only support she gets from me is she's allowed to be on my insurance and my phone plan.

The world doesn't have to be as miserable as people describe CM working conditions in Orlando. Stop acting like 'this is how it has to be...'. Put together a plan, find out what you need, then start doing the things you need to make it real.

If you don't - yes, you'll be stuck there forever or sliding backwards.

I see it even in my high paying industry. People doing the same exact job for like 10 years. You talk to them about their direction, and they have none. They're just happy to treat water and hope the pool never gets drained while they are still in it. Then, when the layoffs do hit, they wander aimlessly wondering 'why me...'.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
I worked at Disney while I attended UCF.

Charge on Fellow Knight.

kids coming from UVA, UT Austin or UW.

Funny you mention those. I dated a UW girl, and she basically in a full UW apartment. Kind of amazing. Also, Disney does recruit at UT Austin, I've known quite a few CP's from there, including a few who came back into higher level positions.

But yes...

CPs seemed to be of two mindsets. Some were like me, just enjoying a semester or 2 working but really just living in a college dorm essentially and having fun. But for a lot of the kids, this was an opportunity to get out Nowheresville, USA

This was a lot of them.

Certainly not ivy leagues either.

Not CP's, I personally know 5 Ivy League Grads who worked or work for Disney (including one that used to post here). One Cornell alum in resorts, one Yale alum is an actor, the second Yale alum was a part time character performer on the weekends while he was in law school, a Brown Alum worked for WDI, and a UPenn alum who is a developer and works part time in entertainment at the parks.

But yes, a lot get sucked in. A lot extend their program and then they realize they dont want to go back to University of Phoenix main campus and just work at Disney.

I'm glad I was fired before I had the chance to become a lifer.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Paying off loan debt faster? , go to a public university rather than private. Less loans to pay off. Feeling adventurous and want to serve your country? Go the ROTC route and free college. I worked through school, winter , summer break and didn't make excuses and put on my big boy pants. I'm glad I took investing classes in school and started early.


I went to a public university and still graduated with debt. It's paid off though, at the cost of my retirement. But the daily compound interest outpaced the growth of my 401k, so the decision was made.

Now I'm rushing to pay it back - so far so good.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
You really have no clue when it comes to contracts, labor law and labor relations. A company offering an extension doesn’t mean a union can’t strike.

A strike at Disney will be kind of pointless when the majority of guest facing areas are far from the property line. The only place for some visibility will be on the sidewalk outside of Hotel Plaza Blvd.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
The Q3 earnings call is tomorrow at 4:30 Eastern. Should be an interesting conference call / bloodbath.

Just looking around when I was there and even considering the limited park & resort operations, their cost center / profit center number have got to be scary.

DIS buying opportunity on tomorrow's drop for my son's account though...
If Bob&Bob put on their best face in these uncertain times and convince Wall Street on a turnaround and restructuring plan then that is what Wall Street and company shareholders want to hear.
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
TL;DR/ Disney's in a bad position financially, layoffs already started, layoffs to continue, expect cuts in the parks, Iger's legacy is tarnished.

Also car buying advice, something about bootstraps, and avocados are good.
Lol, thanks. What areas have layoffs been started?
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
That's neat. I wouldn't mind working at UCF for a few years to be close to the parks, but they dont seem to ever need profs with my background. Looks like a fun school though.

What's your background? My kid sister couldn't find work at UCF, so she got a job at Valencia College.
 

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