On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

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Calmdownnow

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flynnibus said:
It's not enough for people. They want to be the Greeter that requires no real prior training, can be done by anyone with basic training, and want to live where they want, and support their families.

So should the 20yr kid living with 4 other people make x, while 35yr living in a house with 2 kids, doing the same exact job make 4x more because he has greater expenses? If not, the second guy cries "I'm starving..." while the 20yr old says "I'm saving for an xbox...".

This is why the premise of a 'living wage for all' doesn't fit. Everyone doesn't live the same life. And then you get into deciding what kind of life should they be able to afford? Does that mean I can expect them to take lynx buses, or should they be able to afford a car? What is the acceptable commute time? etc etc etc.

The labor market is self-correcting when we ensure people are mobile and empowered. The employers get to squeeze labor when labor is desperate and locked in.
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Maybe "profit sharing" is the answer. Profit sharing works for investors who get their dividends based on profit; profit sharing works for senior executives who get their stock options or bonuses based on profit. Lower level execs get their "raise" based on turnover, but the people at the bottom of the pyramid need a union negotiation, or minimum wage legislation to see any movement in their income. If profit share is good for the top of the pyramid, it should be good for those at the base. And good for the economic health of the company as everyone is incentivised.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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JoeCamel said:
The traffic is a perfect analogy for the three branches
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That stretch of roadway makes me want this:

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CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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LUVMCO said:
A lot of people use credit cards responsibly. There are numerous forums on reddit and other places when people not only use them responsibly, but they use them to their advantage. Churning and earning points for free vacations is a pretty big hobby.
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I carry eight credit cards and I've never paid a penny of interest.

Auto loans at 0% are still a bad idea.
 
networkpro

networkpro

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Lilofan said:
Commuters from Fredricksburg, VA to commute to DC. People leave at 530am to make it to work by 730pm and that's in good weather conditions.
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DC, the white collar ghetto. I lived in Rosslyn across Key bridge for 5 years and worked at Quantico. I reverse commuted and it worked fine while I was finishing off undergrad and grad schools. I-95 twenty years ago was awful, today I'd consider changing what I do for a living before I would even consider moving back to NoVa.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
It represents what “not” to do in urban planning/design. They didn’t seem to make the correlation between what massive suburban expansion does to roadway capacity?

Best engineering fail this side of PENNDot
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Atlanta's highways are pretty awful.

I had a roommate about a decade ago that worked roughly 20 miles from where we lived. He had to take 285 to get there and back (well, not HAD to, but it was faster than any other alternative). Usually took him about an hour and 15 minutes to get back to our place -- could make the same drive in 15 minutes on a weekend.
 
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asianway

asianway

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UNCgolf said:
Atlanta's highways are pretty awful.

I had a roommate about a decade ago that worked roughly 20 miles from where we lived. He had to take 285 to get there and back (well, not HAD to, but it was faster than any other alternatives). Usually took him about an hour and 15 minutes to get back to our place -- could make the same drive in 15 minutes on a weekend.
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I saw my first dead body on an Atlanta highway
 
AEfx

AEfx

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Wow, slogging through the last twenty pages or so has been painful. I forgot just how many people live in a bubble and still think our service based economy should all be run by teenagers and retirees, and that everyone else should just get a “real job” if they want to be able to make a living wage.

Big old news flash for them - like many things, COVID has accelerated something that was already starting to happen. The days of expecting anyone to work any full time job for $10 an hour are coming to a swift close.

This situation has forced society to look at what was really important to them - and during “lockdown”, where everyone but “essential workers” was told to stay home, we decided that the most “essential workers” aside from medical were...those that worked fast food and as clerks in convenience stores. We told people that their minimum wage jobs were so important to us that they had to risk their LIVES to continue to provide that service.

Disney already has this issue, where you could make as much working at McDonalds as in the Magic Kingdom, even though one job required way more BS than the other (at McDonalds you park twenty feet away from the building, you don’t have to take 45 minutes to actually get to your post once you’ve parked your car, and that’s just the start of how much extra Disney employees have to deal with).

People have started to realize their worth. Fast food wages are already going up. Soon, if not already, you can make more than Disney pays. And in case anyone missed it or isn’t paying attention, the days of college students coming to WDW and essentially breaking even after everything Disney takes out of their already paltry pay is OVER.

We have just told the lowest paid, now highest risk workers in our society that they are “essential” - the same ones that some want to tell “if you want to make your rent, get a better job”.

If anyone doesn’t think this is going to fundamentally change the labor market, in favor of higher paid workers, isn’t paying attention.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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PhotoDave219 said:
You're literally right up Rt 15..... I went to HS in Loudoun....

Also, Hi Flynn!
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Yup... its grown like crazy compared to the early 90s. I've been here since '98 and the whole toll rd corridor has changed dramatically during that time.. let alone ashburn going nuts. My pocket is still very nice though, which is why we stayed here through our last upgrade as well.

And welcome back :)
 
mkt

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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RobWDW1971 said:
That's why a free market system works - if what you say is true and the marketplace both values the work of these people more and there is a disruption in supply/demand because they refuse to sell their labor for the current wage, then wages will in fact increase.
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In a perfect world, absolutely. But as the largest employer in the region and in the state, Disney holds most of the cards here. If people leave due to low wages, there's a dozen people with a Disney dream waiting to jump and take over their jobs.

Only to be disillusioned later.

It's a story I've seen repeated many times with the mouse.
 
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