Timmay
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Eh, I hardly notice, and if I do it usually indicates a lack of any type of counter argument.
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Splash Mountain re-theme announced
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Phil12
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Yes he would. Song of the South premiered at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, Ga in 1946. Atlanta was a segregated city back then and James Baskett (Uncle Remus) did not attend because, by law, he would not be able to participate in any of the events.
It was clearly more important to celebrate the white author Joel Chandler Harris at the expense of the star of the film.
Walt would be a complete fool not to apologize for such conduct.
Phil12
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You lost.
ImperfectPixie
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Nice try. No, I didn't. You have presented zero factual information to back your argument. If your arguments had been presented in a court of law with jail being the result of a poor defense...you'd be on your way to the slammer.
Phil12
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So, the conversation is not over after all. Why? Because you still feel the need defend your indefensible position. Face it. You lost.
Brer Oswald
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I shouldn’t have used the word “hurts”. It more so “annoys”.
Brer Oswald
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So he would apologize for the Premiere fiasco and not the actual film itself? Yeah he probably would. He seemed pretty upset about that regardless.
Brer Oswald
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No. They didn’t at all. Your singular piece of evidence doesn’t back the claim that the film is “steeped in racism”.
And don’t think I don’t recognize these tactics you’re trying to pull. You’re trying ever so hard to bait people. Please stop. It isn’t amusing to anyone but yourself. The maturity level of these Forums should be higher than that of 4Chan. Let’s not stoop that low. You can disagree and argue, but make sure you understand what you’re talking about if you can’t handle being proven wrong.
ImperfectPixie
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You saying I lost doesn't make it true. You keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper because you are unable to set aside your emotions and limit your conversation to provable facts - which is all I have been asking for, and which you continuously fail to provide.
During this particular conversation, I have taken no position on the film or the ride...I have set aside my personal beliefs.
There are five facts present: SotS is a problematic film in the United States. Splash Mountain is tied to SotS. Disney decided to cease distribution of the film SotS in the United States. SotS is still available for purchase outside of the United States. Disney decided to re-theme Splash Mountain.
Think about that 4th fact...why do you think SotS is still available for purchase around the world with the exception of the United States? I would posit that it's because the United States is the only place where the film is interpreted as being "racist", and the reason for that is because there are people who profit on race issues continuing - and getting worse - within our country. Walt Disney wouldn't have made the film if he didn't love the source material to begin with...and that is quite the opposite of racism.
LittleBuford
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Brer Oswald
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It reads as pure trolling to me. But I think ImperfectPixie has made some good points in spite of the trolling.
LittleBuford
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That’s sort of what I was saying. It’s trolling, though of the satirical rather than of the intentionally malicious kind.
Little Green Men
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Hey nice to meet a BB fan! I apologize, i did not mean it to hurt your feelings. Did you hear BB22 may be all stars?
Brer Oswald
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No worries, and I appreciate the response!
I did hear about “All Stars 2”, and I’m super excited, albeit a little bit concerned that they aren’t going to pull from anyone before S16.
manmythlegend
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Dr Will please, that would be huge. And Janelle.
Brer Oswald
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Dr Will will (sadly) never come back. He’s just not interested, not to mention the fact that he’s currently dealing with a legal team to protect his family from Mike Boogie.
Janelle would be great. She was rumoured for this season, but she’s denied it, and I think she’s telling the truth. She just wants to spend time with her kids.
Phil12
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This comes from TIME:
But Splash Mountain had its supporters. Another online petition asked that the ride remain in its current incarnation.
“Many adults and children ride this attraction because it brings back childhood memories,” the “Keep Splash Mountain” petition said. “Disney already took out the racist songs which was a good move on their part.”
time.com
But Splash Mountain had its supporters. Another online petition asked that the ride remain in its current incarnation.
“Many adults and children ride this attraction because it brings back childhood memories,” the “Keep Splash Mountain” petition said. “Disney already took out the racist songs which was a good move on their part.”
Disney Theme Parks 'Recasting' Splash Mountain, Water Ride With Ties to Movie With Racist Tropes
Disney officials say the reimagined ride will be based on the 2009 movie 'The Princess and the Frog'
Phil12
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Nice try but you can't rewrite history. History for the win!
manmythlegend
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Yeah I mean if it's the usual suspects like Josh, Davonne, and Bailey, I probably won't watch. Maybe if they get Derek I would watch but something tells me he won't want to leave his family again.
Need some OGs in there.
ImperfectPixie
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Wrong again. I'm not rewriting anything - people who knew Walt Disney personally have said how much he loved the source material.
Go back under your rock and don't tag me again.
ETA: A quote from Joe Schmoe who wrote a petition, does not a legitimate source or fact make.
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