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Touchdown

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If you mean the queue is longer then you are right. Overall, the ride is the same length. The Frozen story is only cohesive because it followed the movie, but it chops up the movie story. Maelstrom was far more cohesive to its original intent and WS's overall intent. Frozen breaks that cohesion in spades.

No the ride is longer both physically (it now bends in the first room when it used to just stay in a straight line when it was the loading area) and you ride more of it (all but 6 in between load and unload instead of them being in separate rooms.
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Premium Member
The model was removed.
The stand alone model was removed. It is still in the giant model of the park, to which video is projection mapped. It will be difficult to remove from this model due to the projection mapping, so if it comes off of that eventually that's real confirmation.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The stand alone model was removed. It is still in the giant model of the park, to which video is projection mapped. It will be difficult to remove from this model due to the projection mapping, so if it comes off of that eventually that's real confirmation.

That table top model also has Miguel's guitar next to Mexico and the Imagination Pavilion, but no announced projects to go with them. This is for me, a very strong clue, that there was once a plan to go ahead with the Coco overlay in Mexico and something in Imagination, but, was cut.... and they didn't want to remake the table top model.

The the UK and SSE are now in the same category, and maybe the Festival Center will be soon if they cut out images of it from the expo show.
 

rowrbazzle

Well-Known Member
It’s not a very good story but here you go:

After the events of the first film, and probably close to the events of “Frozen Fever” Elsa invites all the subjects of her kingdom to her ice palace for a festival. Musical hijinks happen.

It isn’t really the story that I like about the attraction it is an excuse to relive the movie and still make it a “sequel”.

EDIT: “(The festival) commemorates the anniversary of the day Queen Elsa saved her sister, Princess Anna with an unselfish act of true love, thus thawing a frozen heart and ending the eternal winter. To celebrate the event, Elsa bestowed an Official Summer Snow Day upon the Arendelle citizenry, inspiring the amusement ride.”

via Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Ever_After

Talk about some revisionist history. Anna saved Elsa. Anna is the one that showed true love. Elsa didn't do jack.

Either way, I didn't think any of that was conveyed on the ride.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Talk about some revisionist history. Anna saved Elsa. Anna is the one that showed true love. Elsa didn't do jack.

Either way, I didn't think any of that was conveyed on the ride.

Backstory is in the queue.

Also, in the dialogue and lyrics:

Version 1:

OLAF
Do you wanna build a snowman?
C’mon, I know you do!
Elsa’s made a magic winter show,
With summer snow,
For Sven and me and you!
We’re going up to Elsa’s ice palace with you and you and you — all of you! See you there!​
SVEN
(Reindeer grunt.)


Version 2:

OLAF
Do you wanna build a snowman?
C’mon, let’s go and play!
Elsa wants to give us all some fun,
She’s making everyone
A snowy summer day!
Oh, you’re going to Elsa’s ice palace! Sven’s going, I’m going. It’ll be so beautiful! See ya there!​
SVEN
(Reindeer grunt.)


(Boats move alongside TROLLS. Music transitions to “Vuelie.”)


YOUNG TROLL
Tell us the story again!

YOUNG TROLLS
Please!

GRAND PABBIE
On a day, very much like today, Anna saved her sister with an unselfish act of true love and thawed a frozen heart.

YOUNG TROLL
Ooh, ooh, and now they’re best friends!

GRAND PABBIE
Indeed.

BABY TROLL
Hey, you’re going up to a ice palace! Lucky…


CHORUS
Na na na heyana
Hahiyaha naha
Naheya heya na yanuwa
Anhahe yunuwana.



(Boats move uphill and level out as they pass OLAF ice skating. Music transitions to “For the First Time in Forever.”)


OLAF
La da da, for the first time in forever,
Now I’m so glad you came along!
For the first time in forever…
I don’t really know this song.
And watch this next part, yooo-oooh!
Skating!
Skating, skating, celebrating!


Welcome to Elsa’s ice palace!


(Boats move alongside ANNA and KRISTOFF singing together. SVEN’s tongue is stuck to an ice crystal.)


KRISTOFF
Are you ready to see Elsa?

ANNA
They were born ready!
For the first time in forever…

ANNA AND KRISTOFF
We get to share this frozen fun.
For the first time in forever,
Elsa’s inviting everyone.


ANNA
Would you say you’re elated or gassy?

KRISTOFF
Let’s just call it “delight.”

ANNA AND KRISTOFF
‘Cause for the first time in forever,
You’re here…


ANNA
For my sister’s magic night.
 

IMDREW

Well-Known Member
So what then will happen to the space cleared by Innoventions and the fountain. Is there a plan to repair what now looks like a big scar?
Well, I am very not an insider. But putting 1 and 1 together.. the Egg has been canceled, part of innoventions has already been demolished where it would go, Moana is still a go, part of innoventions where that would go still stands, theyre not doing the whole planned World Celebration...

So I would say they’re putting Moana where the Egg would have been and call it a day for World Celebration. Again, thats based on nothing else but speculation and has quickly replaced the Egg for my worst nightmare. Have a great day everybody!
 

rowrbazzle

Well-Known Member
I think someone on Wikipedia mixed the two up.

According to MisterPenguin's text, you're right.
Backstory is in the queue.

Also, in the dialogue and lyrics:

Version 1:

OLAF​
Do you wanna build a snowman?
C’mon, I know you do!
Elsa’s made a magic winter show,
With summer snow,
For Sven and me and you!
We’re going up to Elsa’s ice palace with you and you and you — all of you! See you there!​
SVEN​
(Reindeer grunt.)


Version 2:

OLAF​
Do you wanna build a snowman?
C’mon, let’s go and play!
Elsa wants to give us all some fun,
She’s making everyone
A snowy summer day!
Oh, you’re going to Elsa’s ice palace! Sven’s going, I’m going. It’ll be so beautiful! See ya there!​
SVEN​
(Reindeer grunt.)


(Boats move alongside TROLLS. Music transitions to “Vuelie.”)


YOUNG TROLL
Tell us the story again!

YOUNG TROLLS
Please!

GRAND PABBIE
On a day, very much like today, Anna saved her sister with an unselfish act of true love and thawed a frozen heart.

YOUNG TROLL
Ooh, ooh, and now they’re best friends!

GRAND PABBIE
Indeed.

BABY TROLL
Hey, you’re going up to a ice palace! Lucky…


CHORUS
Na na na heyana
Hahiyaha naha
Naheya heya na yanuwa
Anhahe yunuwana.



(Boats move uphill and level out as they pass OLAF ice skating. Music transitions to “For the First Time in Forever.”)


OLAF
La da da, for the first time in forever,
Now I’m so glad you came along!
For the first time in forever…
I don’t really know this song.
And watch this next part, yooo-oooh!
Skating!
Skating, skating, celebrating!


Welcome to Elsa’s ice palace!


(Boats move alongside ANNA and KRISTOFF singing together. SVEN’s tongue is stuck to an ice crystal.)


KRISTOFF
Are you ready to see Elsa?

ANNA
They were born ready!
For the first time in forever…

ANNA AND KRISTOFF
We get to share this frozen fun.
For the first time in forever,
Elsa’s inviting everyone.


ANNA
Would you say you’re elated or gassy?

KRISTOFF
Let’s just call it “delight.”

ANNA AND KRISTOFF
‘Cause for the first time in forever,
You’re here…


ANNA
For my sister’s magic night.

You typed that all from memory? That's incredible.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
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