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Parker in NYC

Parker in NYC

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MisterPenguin said:
Wasn't the fan community abdicating its influence by snarkily saying there's too much Frozen already? And they were then supposed to be taken seriously by saying, "leave Maelstrom alone and give us a full Frozen mini-land!!"?

Actually, didn't the fans just keep saying "too much Frozen"? That's what I recall.
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The latter. There was even one poster here who downplayed the box office returns because he "didn't like it."
 
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Touchdown

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Surferboy567 said:
While we are on the topic of Frozen...I enjoy Frozen Ever After greatly. It’s not the best attraction in the world or anything but I like what it brings to the park.

Never really had an interest in Malestrom.
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I liked Malestrom, but I like Frozen more, in short:
-Better AAs (The first Olaf is jaw dropping)
-More cohesive story (it’s still not great but there is no inexplicable time jumping and there is a clear story through out)
-It’s longer
-No boring video at the end

The only thing I don’t like about the refurb is the walling in of the over the waterfall scene.
 
brb1006

brb1006

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CastAStone said:
Yes. The fan community hates Frozen at the parks and meanwhile all 3 attractions are busy all the time.
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I remember the two separate threads for "Frozen Ever After" and it's opening day like it was yesterday. Especially the leaked image of Marshmallow that popped up on one of those threads months before it opened..
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Touchdown said:
I liked Malestrom, but I like Frozen more, in short:
-Better AAs (The first Olaf is jaw dropping)
-More cohesive story (it’s still not great but there is no inexplicable time jumping and there is a clear story through out)
-It’s longer
-No boring video at the end

The only thing I don’t like about the refurb is the walling in of the over the waterfall scene.
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Also the themed Q. Maelstrom had a wall of Norwegian flags and 70’s carpeting. In a perfect world they would have enhanced maelstrom by lengthening the ride, adding the Q and enhancing all the show scenes and then if we simply had to have frozen build a separate frozen attraction next door where they built the “most expensive meet and greet ever*” (*copyright Disney imagineering). A highly themed family coaster would have been nice for Epcot.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Touchdown said:
I liked Malestrom, but I like Frozen more, in short:
-Better AAs (The first Olaf is jaw dropping)
-More cohesive story (it’s still not great but there is no inexplicable time jumping and there is a clear story through out)
-It’s longer
-No boring video at the end

The only thing I don’t like about the refurb is the walling in of the over the waterfall scene.
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This is off-topic, but what story is there in Frozen Ever After? I didn't get even a slight hint of one when I rode it; it was just some impressive AAs surrounded by emptiness with no cohesion whatsoever.
 
brb1006

brb1006

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Touchdown said:
I liked Malestrom, but I like Frozen more, in short:
-Better AAs (The first Olaf is jaw dropping)
-More cohesive story (it’s still not great but there is no inexplicable time jumping and there is a clear story through out)
-It’s longer
-No boring video at the end

The only thing I don’t like about the refurb is the walling in of the over the waterfall scene.
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But the three headed trolls!
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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UNCgolf said:
This is off-topic, but what story is there in Frozen Ever After? I didn't get even a slight hint of one when I rode it; it was just some impressive AAs surrounded by emptiness with no cohesion whatsoever.
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It’s not a very good story but here you go:

After the events of the first film, and probably close to the events of “Frozen Fever” Elsa invites all the subjects of her kingdom to her ice palace for a festival. Musical hijinks happen.

It isn’t really the story that I like about the attraction it is an excuse to relive the movie and still make it a “sequel”.

EDIT: “(The festival) commemorates the anniversary of the day Queen Elsa saved her sister, Princess Anna with an unselfish act of true love, thus thawing a frozen heart and ending the eternal winter. To celebrate the event, Elsa bestowed an Official Summer Snow Day upon the Arendelle citizenry, inspiring the amusement ride.”

via Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Ever_After
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Surferboy567 said:
It’s not a very good story but here you go:

After the events of the first film, and probably close to the events of “Frozen Fever” Elsa invites all the subjects of her kingdom to her ice palace for a festival. Musical hijinks happen.

It isn’t really the story that I like about the attraction it is an excuse to relive the movie and still make it a “sequel”.
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I did not pick up any of that when I rode! I had no clue what was going on; it was just AAs and songs from Frozen.

I still can't believe they're building a slightly enhanced FEA in other parks instead of building an actual good, impressive attraction for Frozen.
 
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doctornick

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disneygeek90 said:
I'm guessing this was the "announcement" hinted at a couple days ago? I'm... not surprised.
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I'm not too bothered here. Those were two projects I was not all that thrilled about. I'd rather they just modestly update SSE (namely the descent) and keep the ride mostly as is.

As for Poppins, I definitely think that UK could use a significant attraction, but this sounded like it would be nothing of consequence. Hopefully they revisit in the future and will do a better project - like a dark ride, whether themed to Poppins or something else (e.g. Brave or whatever)

So, is the Moana water project still being shown? If so, that is interesting and probably reflects it is still planned
 
montyz81

montyz81

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Touchdown said:
I liked Malestrom, but I like Frozen more, in short:
-Better AAs (The first Olaf is jaw dropping)
-More cohesive story (it’s still not great but there is no inexplicable time jumping and there is a clear story through out)
-It’s longer
-No boring video at the end

The only thing I don’t like about the refurb is the walling in of the over the waterfall scene.
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If you mean the queue is longer then you are right. Overall, the ride is the same length. The Frozen story is only cohesive because it followed the movie, but it chops up the movie story. Maelstrom was far more cohesive to its original intent and WS's overall intent. Frozen breaks that cohesion in spades.
 

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