Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[Parker in NYC]

Maybe most Italians have more pressing concerns than being perpetual crybabies.

Just don't mention Columbus.

 

[noodles]

Just don't mention Columbus.

Thought he was already cancelled.

 

[Parker in NYC]

And do you think Disney's response has been sufficient?

Oh I was jesting. But the mere mention of Elsa's sexuality a few pages back was met with... a certain response. Whether or not Disney was going to address it, they didn't. But there was an uproar at the possibility.

 

[21stamps]

I am a liberal. I think publicly displaying the confederate flag is terrible. I also think parts of our history is terrible and it’s about time the real Columbus is portrayed to those who didn’t know his doings. However, changing this ride due to a vocal minority is wrong and dangerous. Will me having the picture below on my wall be seen as flying a confederate flag? I hope not. What about wearing a Splash Mountain shirt at the park? Will you get asked to turn it inside out? What’s next on this slippery slope? Tom Sawyer Island? Some of the parts on the railroad? Country Bears? Come to think of it, the golden age of Hollywood was racist, sexist and full of violence. You couldn’t be LGBT and if you were pregnant and not married the studios would force issues. Let’s get rid of Hollywood Studios too.

I better take my picture down. Again I am a bleeding heart liberal and I have these views. This is scarier than the virus.
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Tiana herself is one more princess in Disney’s long line of promoting sexism.. sometimes veiled, but almost always there.
Selective outrage is such an interesting thing to watch.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Thought he was already cancelled.

Nah, too many unconcerned crybabies with more important things to do are still in play. His voyage was bankrolled by Spain, so let the Spanish decide.

 

[_caleb]

I am a liberal. I think publicly displaying the confederate flag is terrible. I also think parts of our history is terrible and it’s about time the real Columbus is portrayed to those who didn’t know his doings. However, changing this ride due to a vocal minority is wrong and dangerous. Will me having the picture below on my wall be seen as flying a confederate flag? I hope not. What about wearing a Splash Mountain shirt at the park? Will you get asked to turn it inside out? What’s next on this slippery slope? Tom Sawyer Island? Some of the parts on the railroad? Country Bears? Come to think of it, the golden age of Hollywood was racist, sexist and full of violence. You couldn’t be LGBT and if you were pregnant and not married the studios would force issues. Let’s get rid of Hollywood Studios too.

I better take my picture down. Again I am a bleeding heart liberal and I have these views. This is scarier than the virus.
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I don't think it's not a slippery slope in the way you're thinking. This change, if it is in response to the conversation about racism in America, may indeed lead to more changes at Disney parks as people scrutinize them for racial insensitivity. But it seems to be much more about Disney not wanting to fight in defense of the film and changing the narrative than some slippery slope to getting rid of anything that might offend anyone anywhere.

 

[erasure fan1]

So now quoting Uncle Remus is offensive? I assume you expect Zip a Dee Doo Dah to be banned from the parks from here on out, then?

This is just sad, man.

I fully expect that ALL reference to song of the south will be gone. No more have a zip a dee do dah day, no background music... It will all be erased. If it isn't, it will just come under scrutiny again.

 

[Smooth]

Stereotypes are what theming is mostly about.

 

[The_Jobu]

I'm curious the amount of people who would stop visiting wdw if Splash was removed. No way to measure obviously, but it would be interesting.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Stereotypes are what theming is mostly about.

This. This is so true and it's what I've been thinking about a lot over the past two days.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I'm curious the amount of people who would stop visiting wdw if Splash was removed. No way to measure obviously, but it would be interesting.

They'd say it and return anyway. Disney's a drug and rehab never fills up.

 

[_caleb]

Oh I was jesting. But the mere mention of Elsa's sexuality a few pages back was met with... a certain response. Whether or not Disney was going to address it, they didn't. But there was an uproar at the possibility.

Right. Disney's audience is a diverse mixture of groups. Disney has to decide which of those groups it wants to focus on serving well, and which ones it doesn't. Increasingly, serving one group well means crossing another group, doesn't it?

 

[MagicRat]

Tiana herself is one more princess in Disney’s long line of promoting sexism.. sometimes veiled, but almost always there.
Selective outrage is such an interesting thing to watch.

I couldn’t agree more, my avatar is Springsteen and I do tend to agree with most of his politics and he is very much for equality and is quite vocal about it. But if you listen to some of his songs, he is singing about overly pursuing women, “I drive all night just to buy you some shoes...”, should he be canceled too? That would be ironic a champion of rights for everyone getting canceled for singing a song about chasing girls in your twenties. But in this world it could happen.

 

[Kate F]

I will say my desire to eventually work for Disney has gone down drastically over the past day

 

[Parker in NYC]

Right. Disney's audience is a diverse mixture of groups. Disney has to decide which of those groups it wants to focus on serving well, and which ones it doesn't. Increasingly, serving one group well means crossing another group, doesn't it?

Absolutely. Of course, economics rule the day so I can understand the need to suppress the LGBT and trans narratives. I mean, Mickey has to eat.

 

[21stamps]

I'm curious the amount of people who would stop visiting wdw if Splash was removed. No way to measure obviously, but it would be interesting.

I wouldn’t stop. I was furious at the fences and rocks on the beach, but didn’t stop visiting.
Now, if Tiana (or any princess) took over Frontierland, that might push me over the edge.

 

[manmythlegend]

I will say my desire to eventually work for Disney has gone down drastically over the past day

Can't say I blame you.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I don't think it's not a slippery slope in the way you're thinking. This change, if it is in response to the conversation about racism in America, may indeed lead to more changes at Disney parks as people scrutinize them for racial insensitivity. But it seems to be much more about Disney not wanting to fight in defense of the film and changing the narrative than some slippery slope to getting rid of anything that might offend anyone anywhere.

Keeping in mind that MagicRat is almost certainly not a “bleeding heart liberal” (your Disney Parks rides changing are scarier than the virus???), you’re totally right.

The discourse around SotS and Splash has existed for a long time now and as the social tide continues to shift, it’s not looking to get any better. Haunted Mansion or Main Street USA have never had these controversies. If they ever do, well, we’ll get to that far later.

 

[kong1802]

I wouldn’t stop. I was furious at the fences and rocks on the beach, but didn’t stop visiting.
Now, if Tiana (or any princess) took over Frontierland, that might push me over the edge.

I hadn't seen that take before..

Really?

 

[The_Jobu]

I wouldn’t stop. I was furious at the fences and rocks on the beach, but didn’t stop visiting.
Now, if Tiana (or any princess) took over Frontierland, that might push me over the edge.

Interesting, I like knowing what people's line in the sand would be. I think ToT or CoP would be my breaking point.