Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[MrMcDuck]

Hey guys let’s talk about the ride.

Going up on the lift hill likely themed to Friends on the Other Side is going to be awesome. It’s like they made that song with a Disney Parks ride in mind.

Not expecting much from the retheme. Doubt they'll put enough $$$ into it. And I don't think Dr. Facilier and his "Friends on the Other Side" will be a major part of it since it's set after the final kiss, but I'm sure there will be a nod to that part of it somewhere.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

The media certainly banged that drum until people believed it.

I’ve seen people on these boards call out IASW because they equate cartoon versions of “historical cultural diversity” with “racism.” “It’s so racist because they’re dressed in historical stereotypes no one wears anymore!” All right, let’s put all the kids in the same clothes. Which ones do you approve? Twenty-first century American versions? Hypocrites.

honestly I don’t even really think the media has ever talked about this much

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Do you have kids? Mine have been riding it since they were on Kindergarten and guess what, they never questioned it.

I do, but honestly they could care less about the theme of splash mountain. Things change.

 

[the-reason14]

And that is their choice but you have a segment that will feel this is also racist as it portrays them bad. They are poor struggling etc. You wont ever win....

Um no. While Tianna, her family, and her people definitely lived in the poorer part of town, she fulfilled her dream of opening a restaurant. She was a hard worker, a dreamer, but believed that hard work was what would pay off, and it did. So she won and fulfilled the “American Dream.”

 

[UNCgolf]

No they aren't different. Language doesn't make you different. They come from the same island and arrived from Africa in the same boats. Spain killed all the Indians in those islands, Haiti and DR kicked out all the white people from Spain when they declared independence, and they moved to PR and Cuba. The ones living in the us are part of the African American community.

Haitians kicked out the French (not the Spanish) in what began as a slave uprising (which took place at the same time as the French Revolution and they're relatively entwined). They then occupied the Dominican Republic for a couple of decades before the Dominicans kicked out the Haitians and declared themselves independent. That is, of course, the broadest possible overview and leaves out every important detail, but Haitians and Dominicans have a very different history.

 

[Beacon Joe]

Isn't Dr. Facilier a bit of a bad stereotype?

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Not expecting much from the retheme. Doubt they'll put enough $$$ into it. And I don't think Dr. Facilier and his "Friends on the Other Side" will be a major part of it since it's set after the final kiss, but I'm sure there will be a nod to that part of it somewhere.

The reprise is set after the final kiss, right? and I’m hoping they take a few creative liberties. They do need something engaging for the drop section and a book report ride would not be the greatest idea.

 

[LF85]

People can react however they want to, I just find it entertaining as the reaction was predictable, and I am sure Disney also anticipated it and won't care.

So react, be sad, angry, burn your pass, don't go back. I'll react how I see fit. Just as you will.

But Disney is still gonna "take us there, take us there, take us all the way there. Cause we're going down the bayou, going down the bayou, going down the bayou, taking us alllll, the way!"

Yes they’re gonna take us from one racist film to another.

 

[Beacon Joe]

Alright everybody, I've finally come to terms with this nonsense. If they must retheme it, they ought to theme it around Mister Toad. The drop could be Toad's descent into Hell.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Isn't Dr. Facilier a bit of a bad stereotype?

I think it’s (voodoo) more a stereotype of New Orleans than it is of a race. It does have Haitian roots, though.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I just wanted to blow your mind by telling you that I read constantly, have an English lit. degree...AND YET I still have time to read this forum and be upset about SM being rethemed.

If you're going to accuse people of thinking that everyone else must be stupid maybe you should stop engaging in that very same behaviour yourself.

I consider myself kinda sorta well read. Maybe. I'm working through my issues right now in response to the news, conflicted and not terribly happy about it. I'll make peace with it at some point or at least I'll learn to find some rationale. But right now, it's terrible news. I come from a long line of civil rights activists and my mom wouldn't be too keen on my response but for Disney theme park devotees, whether or not it's warranted, this is a highly emotional development. Especially in light of all the other changes happening in the world. I want to hold onto something, something safe. Something known. And this is a time where those things are in flux, difficult as that may be.

 

[J_Carioca]

No they aren't different. Language doesn't make you different. They come from the same island and arrived from Africa in the same boats. Spain killed all the Indians in those islands, Haiti and DR kicked out all the white people from Spain when they declared independence, and they moved to PR and Cuba. The ones living in the us are part of the African American community.

I didn't say anything about language. I talked about ethnicity. You're totally wrong, but I can see that you don't even want to bother with a quick internet search that would set you straight. Dominicans are largely a mix of Spanish/white, indigenous (I think the term "Indians" is passe, by the way) and African. It's a completely different history than Haiti. Have you been to these two countries? People look very different. Also, as I said in my earlier post, racism towards Haitians is a real problem in the DR.

 

[Tony Perkis]

Some of you realize that the ride itself isn’t going anywhere, right?

 

[davis_unoxx]

 

[Parker in NYC]

It's on the rumored list of attractions to look at in response to the new BLM protests.

As I've mentioned, the movie part has already been updated to address slavery and continued need for vigilance of civil rights. But maybe they'll get more specific.

An oft-touted suggestion is to stop having the current president give a speech to stop the partisanship dragged into the theater.

Ah, ok. I think the current film is wonderful but the more specific the better. The latter part would raise all hell. But then, if this is any kind of litmus test... if Disney survives Splash Mountain, anything's possible.

 

[Beacon Joe]

I think it’s (voodoo) more a stereotype of New Orleans than it is of a race. It does have Haitian roots, though.

Yes, but Hollywood does have a certain trope that sociologists have been calling out for a while now:

https://othersociologist.com/2012/01/24/hollywood-racism/

Countdown until the Princess & the Frog ride gets removed starts NOW.

 

[wdwmagic]

Some of you realize that the ride itself isn’t going anywhere, right?

The attachment people have is is greater than a ride system. That is what classic Disney rides do.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

Some of you realize that the ride itself isn’t going anywhere, right?

Disney rides are so much more than just a track layout though. Changing the theme is changing the ride as a whole.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Some of you realize that the ride itself isn’t going anywhere, right?

Neither did Maelstrom. But, it kinda sorta did.

 

[Beacon Joe]

Neither did Maelstrom. But, it kinda sorta did.

Maelstrom RIP