It's going to be difficult to put in a *ride*. Recall the size of the theater, there were two of them. That would be the total amount of space for a ride and maybe the pre-show lobby. If ever repurposed it would likely be another theater experience.
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MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath
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It's going to be difficult to put in a *ride*. Recall the size of the theater, there were two of them. That would be the total amount of space for a ride and maybe the pre-show lobby. If ever repurposed it would likely be another theater experience.
HanSoloDolo
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So hypothetically how big could they get that space without messing up the people mover? For instance if you take over Auntie Gravities and the (Merchant of Venus?) gift shop? Is it with in the realm of possibility to carve out space for a dark ride, albeit a small one?
HauntedMansionFLA
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Well, hopefully it’s not going to be used for storage like Body Wars at Epcot.
Earlier in this thread...
I've scoped this out earlier and got similar numbers:
SGE: 18.4k sqft / .42 acres
Snacks and shops: 9k sqft / .2 acres
Total: 27.4k sqft / .64 acres
Peter Pan: 13.5 sqft / .31 acres
So, yeah, you could have a repeat of one of the shortest and lowest capacity dark rides in that space.
For comparison, Buzz is .55 acres.
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To be fair, Peter Pan used a unique vehicle type that required more clearance than a typical dark ride. A continuous omnimover, or coaster train would likely allow for higher capacity. Even the old-school dark rides like Mr Toad's Wild Ride or Snow White's Scary Adventure could work just fine in this space. I wouldn't rule it out, but do agree that a reworked theater is the most likely scenario. Any chance they could bring Timekeeper back!?
BubbaisSleep
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Depending how successful SLOP & Yoshi are, placing smaller dark rides might become of interest to Disney as well. I don't think both rides are big at all so I'm excited to see if they can pull it off without feeling too short.
Hypothetically you could get a decent busbar style ride in the building without touching Cosmic Rays. It’d take a lot of work but would be possible - though it would likely introduce a lot of blank walls on the outside. Possibly more effort than it’s worth before looking at other expansion areas first.
aladdin2007
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better than the ghetto paint job it has right now, just sayin
I would love to see a dark ride in there but they cant even take care of Buzz.
rle4lunch
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True. What's also amazing is that a company that has so many resources and has been in business for over half a century doesn't have cash reserves and set asides for emergency situations like this. Closing for 3 months should be baked into any contingency plan.
I know money is spread everywhere, and it's hard for them to divert monies from one place to another... But I bet they bake something into their future emergency plans. (i.e. price increases, covid-surcharges, etc).
peter11435
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They absolutely do have contingency plans and cash for emergency situations. This situation was unprecedented and beyond anything anyone anywhere planned for or anticipated.
rle4lunch
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Perhaps it was too big to foresee, but I just hope that them missing a quarter of revenue doesn't lead to us, the end user, having to feel the effects for the next 20 years (which I know is going to be the case). I'm sure they'll find some way to hide it into their fees. What I'd really like to know is where their government stimulus money is/has gone to. Not saying they'll be shady with what they put the money toward, but I doubt they'll be transparent either.
That said, we own DVC, so as long as our kids have interest in going, we'll go twice a year to WDW. I use military salute tickets for my family which is about a 40-50% savings off of regular ticket price, so that's a perk. But $6 for a coke or a churro, and having to book xxx months out for subpar food (which used to be walk-in at most TS until they falsely propped them up with ADR's and keeping guests hostage in one park per day due to FP+ ridiculously spreading our day out walking around for 2 hours between rides), my ROI dwindles every visit.
As for the Stitch topic, that space needs to be razed and redone. Along with a Buzz retheme whilst were at it.
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peter11435
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I don’t think any company plans for a complete global shut down of operations for an over an entire quarter. The effects of this will certainly be felt for sometime, but I’m confident it will be a distant memory long before the 20 year mark.
Has it been confirmed that the company received any government money?
DVCakaCarlF
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I agree, no excuse. The stitch issue is an example of a bigger problem.
This place literally prints money, and they act like a 20 year investment is going to crush them.
It’s an insult, and, if I ever meet either bob, I’ll be sure to tell them.
It’s one thing if this was in the back behind a bathroom, but it’s literally the first attraction into Tomorrowland.
This place literally prints money, and they act like a 20 year investment is going to crush them.
It’s an insult, and, if I ever meet either bob, I’ll be sure to tell them.
It’s one thing if this was in the back behind a bathroom, but it’s literally the first attraction into Tomorrowland.
rle4lunch
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I know initially they were supposed to be alloted some, but the amounts got real fuzzy real fast, and there is 0% oversight or controls in place on how the money is being spent by the companies that recieved it.
Ravenclaw78
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If the company did receive any government funds, the exact amount and terms of repayment will be included in their next quarterly SEC filing. I do not recall any such funds having been included in the three COVID relief bills and can't find any news articles indicating such either, but I could have easily missed something.
DVCakaCarlF
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I do not believe they got any relief either.
peter11435
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Who said they were “supposed to be allotted some.” I’m just generally curious of the source of this information.
rle4lunch
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Very early article that was discussing the first stimulus bill. Don't know what came of it.
HauntedMansionFLA
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They could expand Cosmic Rays - it’s always packed and it would be A great return on investment
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