News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Nah, everything will be fine, the Tron building won’t ruin... oh wait, what’s that?

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SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
Man. It is a lot harder than I expected to find information on the height of Space Mountain. The number I'm getting is 183. Is that true? And it's described as "top of cone", but it's from unofficial sources, so I don't know if that's really the cone, or to the top of the spire. Anyone know for sure the height?

Nah, everything will be fine, the Tron building won’t ruin... oh wait, what’s that?

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Wow. You can really see that show building from a random field before the rest of the bus stops were built, blocking the view.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Man. It is a lot harder than I expected to find information on the height of Space Mountain. The number I'm getting is 183. Is that true? And it's described as "top of cone", but it's from unofficial sources, so I don't know if that's really the cone, or to the top of the spire. Anyone know for sure the height?



Wow. You can really see that show building from a random field before the rest of the bus stops were built, blocking the view.

Just one view from Seven Seas Lagoon. We never arrived at MK by bus, but the view of the Tron building from the Contemporary is even more pronounced. I'd imagine the view from the Express Loop would be similar.

I'd love to know the true height of Space Mountain.
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
Damn my eyesight. 104 ft.

Eh, don't worry about it. I mispelled "big", didn't see this message until just now, and spent fifteen minutes checking the elevation marked on the railroad station (108') and writing out a response that the two of you were both correct before doing one last check and realizing you said "ground level" and not "sea level".

Just one view from Seven Seas Lagoon. We never arrived at MK by bus, but the view of the Tron building from the Contemporary is even more pronounced. I'd imagine the view from the Express Loop would be similar.

I'd love to know the true height of Space Mountain.

Yeah. In my previous two posts I'd mentioned the visibility off-stage, but it will be mostly from the right side. Most people coming into the park will see it for that stretch. Anything further to the left it will be a lot less stark. I included the building in my mockup and made it bright red because any color similar to the color the building is was pretty hard to see.

For 80-90% of the Seven Seas Lagoon, the building isn't going to be a huge eyesore. It's going to be mostly hidden by the mountain itself or the canopy. It's definitely very visible from the Contemporary, most of the rooms of which also have great views of the kayfabe-killing dingy roofs of the Magic Kingdom. As a matter of fact, looking at the pictures there's a huge set of trees blocking everything but the left half of Space Mountain from Bay Lake Tower.

And if Space Mountain really is 183', by the way, then I think the forced perspective thing is laid to rest. To me, it seems like a pretty strong case of the design inadvertently doing the opposite, because I always thought that thing was half the size of the Tower of Terror, not 16' less.
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
Quick Question: Why is every coaster show building called a gravity building? Is it because the coasters use the forces of gravity to run?

Gravity building is typically in reference to a building on a rollercoaster where the only force propelling the coaster is gravity. For example RnRC has a line, load , and unload building, a launch tunnel, and a gravity building. I'm not sure why someone would refer to space mountain as a gravity building as it has a lift hill (or 2) inside of it. I don't meet my definition, but maybe I am missing something.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Gravity building is typically in reference to a building on a rollercoaster where the only force propelling the coaster is gravity. For example RnRC has a line, load , and unload building, a launch tunnel, and a gravity building. I'm not sure why someone would refer to space mountain as a gravity building as it has a lift hill (or 2) inside of it. I don't meet my definition, but maybe I am missing something.

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Going by a Google search, it seems the phrase "gravity building" was coined for RnRC.

And as you point out, RnRC has a launch into a separate building in which any forward motion is a result of gravity (and momentum). Thus, a "gravity building".

The Guardians coaster (if it ever is completed) has a similar set-up, and so its giant blue box is also called a gravity building.

I would consider it a misnomer to call the building in which a lift or launcher is including with the rest of the coaster a "gravity building." But in light of most people's unawareness of the etymology of "gravity building," it's understandable they would abstract it to mean any building which encloses a coaster.
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
How does a ride about a magical music box that brings inanimate objects to life fit in DAK?

Because it has a similar muted color scheme! And it fits under the vague catchword banner of adventure and exploration. And do you not see it stars a monkey, which is an animal? Now, if only it had faux weathering, then it would be a perfect thematic fit! Almost as fitting as Indiana Jones! 😉

That's most guests, but it's still an off-stage moment.

That’s a poor point of view in my opinion. From the second you step onto WDW property everything is on stage.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Going by a Google search, it seems the phrase "gravity building" was coined for RnRC.

And as you point out, RnRC has a launch into a separate building in which any forward motion is a result of gravity (and momentum). Thus, a "gravity building".

The Guardians coaster (if it ever is completed) has a similar set-up, and so its giant blue box is also called a gravity building.

I would consider it a misnomer to call the building in which a lift or launcher is including with the rest of the coaster a "gravity building." But in light of most people's unawareness of the etymology of "gravity building," it's understandable they would abstract it to mean any building which encloses a coaster.
Weird, since RnRC was hardly the first to launch into another building (I think Flight of Fear was)
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
How about Animal Kingdom gets its own unique dark ride, and Hong Kong retains its one truly great attraction as an exclusive?
Dont forget Grizzly Gulch.
It isn’t. That’s why it stood in isolation for 45 years. The new development will spoil the forced perspective and make the actual size more obvious.

The gravity building roof is only 145 ft above ground level.
TL Power & Light ruined SM’s forced perspective a long time ago.
 

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