News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

_caleb

_caleb

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As we watch TRON being built, these are the things that interest me.

I know several of us have asked how they might be modifying/customizing TRON for WDW. (And @lazyboy97o has responded to every one of these posts with something along the lines of “No changes. This is an identical/exact copy of TRON in Shanghai.”)

But we know that the orientation of the ride is actually different than the one in Shanghai. The entire thing (box and canopy) has been rotated compared to Shanghai so that the view on approach to the queue will be different. I’m not sure we’ve seen details about the elevation of the surrounding area.

For example, if the attraction has been built on a slight hill (compared to Shanghai), the canopy would obscure more of the box from the perspective of approach from TL. This might make the canopy seem larger than it is when viewed from Tomorrowland, but might make the box more visible from, say outside the park or from the Barnstormer side. If the attraction has been built a bit lower (slightly sunk into the ground as compared to Shanghai), it could make the box more visible from within Tomorrowland but seem less prominent on the skyline when viewed from a distance.

Or maybe they don’t care about this stuff at all and just stuck the thing where they did for no reason at all.
 
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Josh Hendy

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_caleb said:
Or maybe they don’t care about this stuff at all and just stuck the thing where they did for no reason at all.
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I believe that once the 2 major decisions were made: to add Tron to Tomorrowland and to modify the Shanghai blueprints as little as possible (to lower costs) then everything else must be taken as unalterable.

There was only one place it could fit. Meaning the show building is going to loom over Space Mountain and spoil the SM sightlines from many angles both inside and outside the park. And there was no choice in how the approach to Tron can work given the need to circumvent Space Mtn, WEDway, Speedway and WDWRR. Therefore the long walkway, stairs and approach sightlines were determined by decisions (1) and (2), not by imagineering.

If it makes you feel any better, they will probably shoehorn Space Mountain or GotG into Shanghai someday and spoil the sightlines there 🤣
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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Josh Hendy said:
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I believe that once the 2 major decisions were made: to add Tron to Tomorrowland and to modify the Shanghai blueprints as little as possible (to lower costs) then everything else must be taken as unalterable.

There was only one place it could fit. Meaning the show building is going to loom over Space Mountain and spoil the SM sightlines from many angles both inside and outside the park. And there was no choice in how the approach to Tron can work given the need to circumvent Space Mtn, WEDway, Speedway and WDWRR. Therefore the long walkway, stairs and approach sightlines were determined by decisions (1) and (2), not by imagineering.

If it makes you feel any better, they will probably shoehorn Space Mountain or GotG into Shanghai someday and spoil the sightlines there 🤣
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Lol, I give two poops about Shanghai TBH. China can pretty much stick it where the sun don't shine for me ever being a tourist there again.

I agree that there's always the cheap factor with WDO, but I'm not gonna sit here and opine about what something 'MIGHT' end up looking at. Once the project is finished and I visit the park with mine own eyes, I'll make my judgement.
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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marni1971 said:
In fairness, no one suggests you personally should do anything different.
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Understood, just sayin' though. Maybe they'll surprise us??? I just sick of poo-pooing something before we see the finished product. I dunno, call me nuts, but not everything that Disney is/has/was done in the last decade has been bad.
 
corran horn

corran horn

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lazyboy97o said:
We can’t know!

I guess it’s not as bad as Sausalito where people refused to accept that the construction was typical insulated metal panels and concocted all sorts of ”What if?” scenarios.
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We can't know to what measure the canopy will obscure the building.

We can't know to what measure landscaping will obscure the building.

"loom over":



"loom over":

 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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corran horn said:
We can't know to what measure the canopy will obscure the building.

We can't know to what measure landscaping will obscure the building.
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We know exactly where the canopy is going to be located because it has existed for years now. The canopy extends in front a single elevation. It does not wrap the building, it is not being radically redesigned to wrap the building. Landscaping that tall would stick out as a bunch of tall trees in narrow areas. Trees looming behind Space Mountain is not a better look.
 
corran horn

corran horn

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lazyboy97o said:
We know exactly where the canopy is going to be located because it has existed for years now. The canopy extends in front a single elevation. It does not wrap the building, it is not being radically redesigned to wrap the building. Landscaping that tall would stick out as a bunch of tall trees in narrow areas. Trees looming behind Space Mountain is not a better look.
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So what view concerns you then? If landscaping borders the speedway it'll obscure the building from riders and not be obtrusive to SM at all.

The canopy in Shanghai seems to extend enough laterally that it'll obscure a good bit of view given the orientations we've seen.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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lazyboy97o said:
We know exactly where the canopy is going to be located because it has existed for years now. The canopy extends in front a single elevation. It does not wrap the building, it is not being radically redesigned to wrap the building. Landscaping that tall would stick out as a bunch of tall trees in narrow areas. Trees looming behind Space Mountain is not a better look.
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Right. I understand all that. Not only has the building existed for years in Shanghai, it currently exists (sans canopy) in Orlando. At this point, we can see how obtrusive it is and (will be) when viewed from outside the park and land.

What HASN’T existed is the walkway leading up to the attraction in Orlando. Will we walk up a slight hill in order to cross over the train) and then approach TRON from a slightly elevated perspective? If so, seems like that might obscure the entrance to the ride when viewed from TL. If the walkway is down on the same grade as the rest of TL, the canopy would certainly obscure more of the box from that perspective.

Also, the exterior panels on the box are different colors here than in Shanghai. It’s may not be much, but I count it as At least a bit of “customization.”
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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corran horn said:
So what view concerns you then? If landscaping borders the speedway it'll obscure the building from riders and not be obtrusive to SM at all.

The canopy in Shanghai seems to extend enough laterally that it'll obscure a good bit of view given the orientations we've seen.
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Every other direction besides walking straight towards it. You can see the thing behind Space Mountain coming across the Seven Seas Lagoon.

_caleb said:
Right. I understand all that. Not only has the building existed for years in Shanghai, it currently exists (sans canopy) in Orlando. At this point, we can see how obtrusive it is and (will be) when viewed from outside the park and land.

What HASN’T existed is the walkway leading up to the attraction in Orlando. Will we walk up a slight hill in order to cross over the train) and then approach TRON from a slightly elevated perspective? If so, seems like that might obscure the entrance to the ride when viewed from TL. If the walkway is down on the same grade as the rest of TL, the canopy would certainly obscure more of the box from that perspective.

Also, the exterior panels on the box are different colors here than in Shanghai. It’s may not be much, but I count it as At least a bit of “customization.”
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You’re right that the view will be obscured directly in front, but that’s not much when so much more visible. Even then, there is nothing more to the elevations under the canopy, it too is the insulated metal panels that have been installed. Kynar 500 is available in all sorts of colors, so I’m not sure a differentlycolored warehouse counts for much, just adapting to local codes was more customization work.
 
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Josh Hendy

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After checking put the photos and concept art some more, I think that from within the park the Tron show building won't be a big problem. It's maybe about 2/3 of the height of SM.

But the canopy wrapped around Tron might stick out quite a bit and be a bit of a visual distraction from Space Mountain from some angles. For example looking at SM from the area of Astro Orbiter and CoP.

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