News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[corran horn]

Not really... very little backstage was visible from the monorails. The berm and trees hid almost everything.

Technically you’re correct from bay lake tower and contemporary but from that distance it was still an attractive view towards MK.

It still is. I was just at the DVC deck on the BLT roof. The TRON building is so far to the right it doesn't disrupt any view - and as I said, you could always see backstage areas from up there anyway.

 

[corran horn]

What other 90' tall warehouses are so prominent?

I imagine the wave/blob installation will mask that somewhat. We shall see. Nobody knows for now, of course.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I imagine the wave/blob installation will mask that somewhat. We shall see. Nobody knows for now, of course.

We do know because it’s been built before and even been shown several times in diagrams and photos.

 

[corran horn]

We do know because it’s been built before and even been shown several times in diagrams and photos.

I've never been to Shanghai, but if you can find a photo of the current ride showing anything but the barest hint of a building behind that installation when viewed from inside the park you're doing better than me. Now, from 15 floors up and 1500 ft to the SE it'll be different, of course. How couldn't it be? Seems like views from the monorail would be fine but I admit I haven't looked and seen what the view is now. (yet)

 

[marni1971]

well, from the West is practically straight-on. I imagine it'll look nice enough. North of it is backstage.

Are you talking about from the Barnstormer queue?

So. This big box.

In Shanghai the attraction is designed to be visible only with the canopy in front of it. Kind of only from Tomorrowland Light and Power area.

In Orlando the orientation is skewed 45 degrees meaning the designed to be hidden box will be visible from the Speedway, Cosmic Rays, Tea Cups, Storybook Circus etc

The yellow line is a rough alignment of the WDW RR, red arrows the designed view angles:

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I hope they’re going to do more than paint big stripes on it.

 

[corran horn]

The overhead views here (1/2/20, particularly the second one with the yellow line showing the train path) give a good perspective. If the canopy extends to cover all the external track (which given the renders it seems to) I'm pretty confident that from ground-level (from speedway cars or Cosmic Ray's through the speedway entrance for example) the building will be adequately masked.

You'll absolutely be able to see it from the train station and train unless they get really creative with trees.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I've never been to Shanghai, but if you can find a photo of the current ride showing anything but the barest hint of a building behind that installation when viewed from inside the park you're doing better than me. Now, from 15 floors up and 1500 ft to the SE it'll be different, of course. How couldn't it be? Seems like views from the monorail would be fine but I admit I haven't looked and seen what the view is now. (yet)

There are photos just three pages back and plenty more from different angles before that.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

In all the hubbub yesterday I forgot to share an image I photoshopped using one of those new Drone photos from Shanghai - a skyward view of (roughly) what TRON will look like sitting in the Magic Kingdom when it's completed:

 

[Josh Hendy]

In all the hubbub yesterday I forgot to share an image I photoshopped using one of those new Drone photos from Shanghai - a skyward view of (roughly) what TRON will look like sitting in the Magic Kingdom when it's completed:

Thanks for this. The size and height of the Tron warehouse look a lot more inconspicuous than I thought. A few trees around it and I think it'll be fine.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Thanks for this. The size and height of the Tron warehouse look a lot more inconspicuous than I thought. A few trees around it and I think it'll be fine.
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Apparently it should be stated . . . this is not To Scale. It's an approximation.

 

[corran horn]

Apparently it should be stated . . . this is not To Scale. It's an approximation.

From the renderings it seems this should be rotated clockwise a little - an arrow shot through the old arcade/Space Mountain store will hit the entrance to its left, not right. This would *seem* to allow the canopy to obscure the building from a viewpoint of the park (particularly from the speedway) on a better bias, rather than in this mock-up where the rear of SM is getting a 'better' view.

Thanks for posting - it does give a good understanding of what may be.

 

[Josh Hendy]

I checked the vertical satellite views at the same scale between Shangah Dl and MK. It appears that in reality the Tron box footprint is larger than the SM dome so in this photoshopped view you should imagine Tron being significantly larger than shown.

 

[Goofyque']

I didn't mean it detracts from the ride experience -- I meant it detracts from the experience for non-riders just walking around the park. It shouldn't be a big issue for Tron because it's located back in a corner and you likely won't be able to see any of it unless you're near it in Tomorrowland, but the fact that you don't have rides going by overhead all around you (and constantly in your sight lines) is one of the best things about Disney compared to almost every other theme park.

Besides the multiple times we rode tron, one of the best things was watching it go past under the canopy!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Some other views based on the permits...

Here's the outline of the ride as it exists in Shanghai overlaid from the same angle....

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And from a different angle...

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It's this many degrees....

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[yensidtlaw1969]

From the renderings it seems this should be rotated clockwise a little - an arrow shot through the old arcade/Space Mountain store will hit the entrance to its left, not right. This would *seem* to allow the canopy to obscure the building from a viewpoint of the park (particularly from the speedway) on a better bias, rather than in this mock-up where the rear of SM is getting a 'better' view.

Thanks for posting - it does give a good understanding of what may be.

I checked the vertical satellite views at the same scale between Shangah Dl and MK. It appears that in reality the Tron box footprint is larger than the SM dome so in this photoshopped view you should imagine Tron being significantly larger than shown.
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. . . There's a reason I said roughly, guys. And a reason I included it in a full-size image of The Magic Kingdom rather than a closeup - because it's not perfect.

I will say this, I made an effort to line up the angle of the foundation as visible in Google Earth with the angle of the Shanghai photo, but even then it's still an approximation. Was meant more to be fun than be a document subjected to any meaningful scrutiny.

 

[JoeCamel]

. . . There's a reason I said roughly, guys. And a reason I included it in a full-size image of The Magic Kingdom rather than a closeup - because it's not perfect.

I will say this, I made an effort to line up the angle of the foundation as visible in Google Earth with the angle of the Shanghai photo, but even then it's still an approximation. Was meant more to be fun than be a document subjected to any meaningful scrutiny.

Thanks for the work, looks like it looks and no surprise it will be fugly from some views.

 

[Josh Hendy]

A couple of pictures taken from on and around World Dr showing the stripey box in the context of the MK skyline would be worth a million words ... not that we won't spill a million words of opinion and speculation anyway...

 

[smile]

. . . There's a reason I said roughly, guys. And a reason I included it in a full-size image of The Magic Kingdom rather than a closeup - because it's not perfect.

I will say this, I made an effort to line up the angle of the foundation as visible in Google Earth with the angle of the Shanghai photo, but even then it's still an approximation. Was meant more to be fun than be a document subjected to any meaningful scrutiny.

if you can't handle the scrutiny...
don't do the favor

 

[Clyde Birdbrain]

Some pictures from Shanghai with the building visible behind. I didn’t notice it when we were there. It blended in well with the blue sky.

 

[corran horn]

Nice, thanks Clyde Birdbrain!