EPCOT Brazil (and maybe others) Pavilion Coming to Epcot [not about Brazilian people nor a country wish list]

[HiJe]

If I remember correctly, Epcot came together by combining 2 different ideas, FW and WS, and pushing them together. Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if it has ever been considered to split the 2 areas apart again and create separate parks.

Add 7 or 8 more countries to the WS and have that be 1 park, and do literally anything with FW and make that another. I know this is unlikely, a logistical nightmare, and would cost a ton, but thought it would be interesting.

 

[Rich Brownn]

If I remember correctly, Epcot came together by combining 2 different ideas, FW and WS, and pushing them together. Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if it has ever been considered to split the 2 areas apart again and create separate parks.

Add 7 or 8 more countries to the WS and have that be 1 park, and do literally anything with FW and make that another. I know this is unlikely, a logistical nightmare, and would cost a ton, but thought it would be interesting.

Yes, originally it was Epcot Future World Theme Center (which would have been down by 192) which would mark the entrance to all WDW. Then PeopleMovers would connect to satellite (Magic Kingdom, World Showcase, etc). Then it was combined with World Showcase as the entrance and Future World in the back. When it turned out there were plenty of corporate sponsors but few countries, they flopped it. It'd be hard to separate them into two parks now though.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

So @marni1971 , Brazil is officially dead. What do you think is the next bet for a new World Showcase country? Why? And when would it appear?

 

[Josh Hendy]

So @marni1971 , Brazil is officially dead. What do you think is the next bet for a new World Showcase country? Why? And when would it appear?

We're talking burgers, ribs, beer and launching coasters now. Dollywood with 30-60 day ride planning, lol.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

We're talking burgers, ribs, beer and launching coasters now. Dollywood with 30-60 day ride planning, lol.

I would argue Dollywood has a more consistent theme...

 

[Touchdown]

I would argue Dollywood has a more consistent theme...

Part of it thinks it’s the 1870s, other parts 1950s, other parts in modern day. Not to mention the overlays for the festivals.

(Can’t wait to go to the Festival of Nations in 2 months)

 

[Horizons '83]

Part of it thinks it’s the 1870s, other parts 1950s, other parts in modern day. Not to mention the overlays for the festivals.

(Can’t wait to go to the Festival of Nations in 2 months)

Its 450 a night at their on site hotel in August, let’s not get carried away with Dollywoods “value” over Disney.

 

[marni1971]

So @marni1971 , Brazil is officially dead. What do you think is the next bet for a new World Showcase country? Why? And when would it appear?

FWIW I’ve not heard it’s dead. Officially or not.

 

[mikejs78]

So @marni1971 , Brazil is officially dead. What do you think is the next bet for a new World Showcase country? Why? And when would it appear?

Where did you hear it was officially dead? @marni1971 has said otherwise.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

FWIW I’ve not heard it’s dead. Officially or not.

Where did you hear it was officially dead? @marni1971 has said otherwise.

My apologies! I thought I heard it here. Maybe a nightmare!
If it's not dead, when do you think it will happen?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Where did you hear it was officially dead? @marni1971 has said otherwise.

Yeah...they’re “getting around to it”

My apologies! I thought I heard it here. Maybe a nightmare!
If it's not dead, when do you think it will happen?

In May

 

[marni1971]

My apologies! I thought I heard it here. Maybe a nightmare!
If it's not dead, when do you think it will happen?

I don’t know if you heard it here, perhaps you did. But not from me

(as always FWIW)

 

[Phicinfan]

Okay here is the confusion, mostly too many, like me reading into what @marni1971 has stated:

Postponed.

then:

It actually carried on for a while with no sponsor. Then uncle Bob decided he wouldn’t pay.

then:

No, it was designed beforehand and the companies were invited to sponsor all or part of what was offered.

This one came so close. Probably as close as Africa did.

So some of us took it to mean it was dead in the water. Just goes to show folks, read what is written, not what we thought was written.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’ll offer a suggestion (which nobody will take...so I’ll be here in the corner ifanyone needs me...):

Instead of chasing tails about concept designs, self-righteous imagineering leaks, analyzing the foreign tourist market, debating where they’re gonna put the giant Jesus statue, etc., etc., etc....

Only pay heed to news of a FINANCIAL nature. As in who’s gonna pony up the cash to Disney. That is the problem...the only problem...and the only thing to give time of day.

It’s the whole shebang...the reason they don’t build countries is the model is broken. Countries were done and paid for in a completely different time. Management priorities, media and technology have all changed.

It is what it is...that is what it is.

 

[mikejs78]

I’ll offer a suggestion (which nobody will take...so I’ll be here in the corner ifanyone needs me...):

Instead of chasing tails about concept designs, self-righteous imagineering leaks, analyzing the foreign tourist market, debating where they’re gonna put the giant Jesus statue, etc., etc., etc....

Only pay heed to news of a FINANCIAL nature. As in who’s gonna pony up the cash to Disney. That is the problem...the only problem...and the only thing to give time of day.

It’s the whole shebang...the reason they don’t build countries is the model is broken. Countries were done and paid for in a completely different time. Management priorities, media and technology have all changed.

It is what it is...that is what it is.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Very eloquent

 

[Phicinfan]

Very eloquent

With due respect, he got his point across as well as you can

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

Ok this is a bump.. but:

any updates?

ETA: Any countries. Not just Brazil.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Are you serious?

Pouring money into parks as severe recessions roll out isn’t exactly in the Disney Playbook

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

Are you serious?

Pouring money into parks as severe recessions roll out isn’t exactly in the Disney Playbook

I was moreso trying to see if there were any unannounced plans that are now completely off the board due to this recession. IE- rumored India, Spain, etc.