DHS Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

Mike S

Mike S

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egg said:
It’s important to note that Peter Pan’s Flight has ridiculously long lines nearly five decades after it opened and it’s not even that good. Meanwhile I walked right onto Forbidden Journey in the middle of the day the year it opened. It’s a matter of supply and demand that won’t be changing any time soon. Rise of the Resistance was foolishly designed with low throughput. Imagine if Galaxy’s Edge pulled in the crowds some anticipated... it would be even worse.

Hopefully MMRR is far better-designed in this regard and won’t have a similar issue.
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I wonder what it would look like if Peter Pan had anywhere near the capacity Forbidden Journey has.
BrianLo said:
It's in excess of 3000 I think. The boats each seat 30 people.

30 discrete seats too that they are mostly motivated to fill, not just a bench.

I'm super, super glad WDW is getting the LPS wave. However, they so desperately need a wave of the Shanghai Pirates system, at multiple parks.
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The Shanghai Pirates system applied to Indiana Jones could be interesting if you set it in Atlantis.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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Let me just say this - if the Boarding Group method becomes de-rigueur for queueing new attractions at Walt Disney World and not just an exceptional implement to manage the unique situation at Rise, consider me wildly disinterested.

The confluence of circumstances under which Rise was opened is enough to justify the temporary effort to corral guests in a new way. To pretend that every "major" attraction from here on out need be managed in this way would be ridiculous and off-putting on Disney's part. How many attractions sit at the same intersection of popular influences as RotR? Everyone loves Mickey, sure, and I'm excited to ride, but come on.

The idea of having to get a Boarding Group for Ratatouille has me rolling. Is that really what things have come to?
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

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The difference between a Rise boarding group and a Rat/MMRR boarding group is that the latter shouldn't completely dissipate within 15 minutes of park opening (except possibly on Day 1). They'd last longer throughout the day, while giving guests a chance to guarantee their ride and enjoy the rest of the park. A great option compared to the nightmare FoP was (and still is) for anyone without a FastPass.

I like the idea and think it would really benefit the upcoming wave of attraction openings, at least during the first few weeks of operation when demand is higher and downtime is likelier.
 
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techgeek

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
The difference between a Rise boarding group and a Rat/MMRR boarding group is that the latter shouldn't completely dissipate within 15 minutes of park opening (except possibly on Day 1). They'd last longer throughout the day, while giving guests a chance to guarantee their ride and enjoy the rest of the park. A great option compared to the nightmare FoP was (and still is) for anyone without a FastPass.
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If I'm willing to wait in a standby line that I can actually join, I'm 'guaranteed' to ride every other ride on property. I can walk on FoP any day of the year, right up until park closing time, and ride. I'll take that with a 2 hour line anytime over having to be in the park before opening time and receiving a 'random' ride slot that doesn't have a guaranteed time associated with it.
 
Tom Morrow

Tom Morrow

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marni1971 said:
I’m shaking my head that anyone is happy that this ride will be hundreds less than that.

If it could actually handle 2100 an hour that’d be a step in the right direction.
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Hopefully they will reach close to this sooner rather than later.

Kamikaze said:
How many attractions operate at close to THRC? Obviously 100% is impossible. What would you say is a reasonable goal if 2100 is theoretical? 2000?
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It varies per attraction. The THRC is not impossible (well, hitting it exactly pretty much is) but attractions usually hit at least 100 riders less per hour no matter how hard the operations team tries, because there will always be delays, slow guests, etc. The OHRC is determined by including an expected number of delays. The type of delays and how much they affect the capacity also vary per attraction.
 
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DarkMetroid567

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techgeek said:
If I'm willing to wait in a standby line that I can actually join, I'm 'guaranteed' to ride every other ride on property. I can walk on FoP any day of the year, right up until park closing time, and ride. I'll take that with a 2 hour line anytime over having to be in the park before opening time and receiving a 'random' ride slot that doesn't have a guaranteed time associated with it.
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Many here forget that the vague estimated waits for boarding groups often conflict with other plans, especially in other parks. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone arrive at 7, get boarding group 105, but then tell us about their lunch/dinner plans at Epcot. 2 hours is admittedly a generous window, but it still wasn’t quite working for a lot of guests.

Boarding groups cause you to invest your state of mind into Rise of the Resistance. You will never stop thinking about it or worrying about it until your group is called.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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DarkMetroid567 said:
Many here forget that the vague estimated waits for boarding groups often conflict with other plans, especially in other parks. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone arrive at 7, get boarding group 105, but then tell us about their lunch/dinner plans at Epcot. 2 hours is admittedly a generous window, but it still wasn’t quite working for a lot of guests.

Boarding groups cause you to invest your state of mind into Rise of the Resistance. You will never stop thinking about it or worrying about it until your group is called.
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Imagine what a six hour wait in a queue does to one's plans.
 
nickys

nickys

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DarkMetroid567 said:
god how many times are we going to talk around ourselves

if a six hour queue doesn’t fit your plans, you Don’t Join It. that is how literally every E-ticket attraction in history has worked.
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Agreed.

However you were complaining that the 2 hour window wasn’t working for some people. @MisterPenguin was saying that it offers more options than waiting in an actual line for 6 hours.
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

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techgeek said:
If I'm willing to wait in a standby line that I can actually join, I'm 'guaranteed' to ride every other ride on property. I can walk on FoP any day of the year, right up until park closing time, and ride. I'll take that with a 2 hour line anytime over having to be in the park before opening time and receiving a 'random' ride slot that doesn't have a guaranteed time associated with it.
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But that's the thing: for MMRR and Rat (aside from the first day or so) you wouldn't have to be in the park by opening, because the supply vs. demand and operational challenges plaguing RotR don't apply. Guardians is more of a wildcard due to its innovative ride system, but 2020's openings and even Tron should be way smoother than Rise.

Assuming these attractions aren't immediately available with FP+, boarding groups give guests a chance to experience them as a bonus, instead of having to show up well before park opening & survive the rope drop dash (which has gotten increasingly aggressive over the years, even for attractions like Slinky) or settle for a 2-4 hour standby wait. It also means people aren't stuck in a queue for every instance of downtime, which is more common during the first few weeks of operation.
 

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