Rumor Light Rail / Tram Link for Disney Springs to TTC?

[Creathir]

I think it's ironic that we're now discussing the gondola outside the gondola thread. Is this what happens when we stop discussing the gondola in the gondola thread?

What's next? Dogs and cats, living together?

We have to be careful, or else this will become the WDWGondola board...

 

[DisneyCane]

I'm predicting dedicated lanes, flyways and underpasses for buses. Hydrogen powered buses.

Hydrogen? Of all alternative energy, hydrogen makes the least sense. It doesn't exist in a way that you can drill for it so it must be produced from something else and it has major safety considerations that have to be dealt with.

Some kind of electric bus/tram/trolley with overhead electric instead of batteries would probably make the most sense. That removes the need for batteries. Think San Francisco without the human feces.

Adding dedicated lanes to existing roads probably makes the most sense also.

 

[jt04]

Hydrogen? Of all alternative energy, hydrogen makes the least sense. It doesn't exist in a way that you can drill for it so it must be produced from something else and it has major safety considerations that have to be dealt with.

Some kind of electric bus/tram/trolley with overhead electric instead of batteries would probably make the most sense. That removes the need for batteries. Think San Francisco without the human feces.

Adding dedicated lanes to existing roads probably makes the most sense also.

Rails and/or overhead lines are expensive, create right-of-way issues and limit route flexibility.

Hydrogen busses are already here. Many if not all of your concerns have been resolved.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Hydrogen? Of all alternative energy, hydrogen makes the least sense. It doesn't exist in a way that you can drill for it so it must be produced from something else and it has major safety considerations that have to be dealt with.

Right. That is why hydrogen is looked at as a type of battery, a way to store the energy which should be produced more cleanly. It's a very clean battery.

 

[DisneyCane]

Rails and/or overhead lines are expensive, create right-of-way issues and limit route flexibility.

Hydrogen busses are already here. Many if not all of your concerns have been resolved.

Just because they exist doesn't mean they make sense to use. LNG busses would make more sense than hydrogen since the hydrogen needs to be produced from it anyway. Until the world has enough excess renewable energy to use it to split hydrogen out of water, hydrogen makes no sense as a fuel. By that time, biofuels will be viable and available in large scales.

 

[jt04]

Just because they exist doesn't mean they make sense to use. LNG busses would make more sense than hydrogen since the hydrogen needs to be produced from it anyway. Until the world has enough excess renewable energy to use it to split hydrogen out of water, hydrogen makes no sense as a fuel. By that time, biofuels will be viable and available in large scales.

Nuclear power can be used to create hydrogen. Essentially creating a 100% clean loop that is nearly limitless.

Some routes can be driverless (sort of like monorails work but trackless) Some can be flex routes with human drivers to meet shifting demand. IE special events.

 

[DisneyCane]

Nuclear power can be used to create hydrogen. Essentially creating a 100% clean loop that is nearly limitless.

Some routes can be driverless (sort of like monorails work but trackless) Some can be flex routes with human drivers to meet shifting demand. IE special events.

But using nuclear power (or any other "carbon free" source) takes that energy from the grid. That's why I say it makes no sense until excess alternative energy is available.

 

[jt04]

But using nuclear power (or any other "carbon free" source) takes that energy from the grid. That's why I say it makes no sense until excess alternative energy is available.

Nuclear power plants have excess power in the overnight hours. More than enough for generating and storing hydrogen.

Eventually, modular reactors can serve this purpose ideally.

 

[Robbiem]

Yes. The station is within a stone's throw of the parks but you board on a lower level. Hence you don't cross any tracks when walking to the parks. I think it is more of a build up than dig down though.

If the whole of the magic Kingdom can be built above a tunnel system with entry at water level from the ferryboat dock then im sure you have a train line without level crossings if it was designed right

 

[Master Yoda]

If the whole of the magic Kingdom can be built above a tunnel system with entry at water level from the ferryboat dock then im sure you have a train line without level crossings if it was designed right

The Utilidoors are not traditional tunnels. They are essentially the first floor of a 2 story building which is above the water line.

 

[juniorthomas]

We have to be careful, or else this will become the WDWGondola board...

What's all this I keep hearing about a Gondola? Is that a new ride in Italy at Epcot?

 

[MrPromey]

Do any of them involve flinging people through the air...?
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Yes, but I believe the current plan involves dousing you with lighter fluid and setting you on fire first, when traveling after dusk, to help reduce nighttime show budgets.