Rich Brownn
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And I',m realizing you don't either. My degree is in cinematography. Bye.
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DHS Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed
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I seem to remember a WETA artist claimed there are more pixels in FOP’s ride film than there are in all of Avatar, accounting for the much higher resolution and frame rate.
Digital Soarin’ and FOP are both rendered at higher than 4K, and I’m pretty sure they use an array of projectors rather than a single one. I would appreciate some confirmation though!
EDIT: See Mister Penguin’s link. A rig of 4 4K projectors, 120fps.
Digital Soarin’ and FOP are both rendered at higher than 4K, and I’m pretty sure they use an array of projectors rather than a single one. I would appreciate some confirmation though!
EDIT: See Mister Penguin’s link. A rig of 4 4K projectors, 120fps.
Purduevian
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So is mickey going to ride a banshee in this ride or can we get back on topic? On the subject of ride length, I know this is from awhile ago...
ToTBellHop
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Send in the dude who stole Buzzy.
DisneyOutsider
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I think you may be on to something... better pack up and hit the road before your brain gets corrupted by all of us Diznoids. We clearly are undeserving of your poignant insights.
Here you go...
DAK - AVATAR land - the specifics
In the semi-recent picture, you can see the two low-tech black mechanisms sticking down from under one of the boats. I know a few people (some on here iirc) asked about the ride system, and I kept reiterating that I'm only 99% certain it's a Jungle Cruise syle system, but, these latest...forums.wdwmagic.com
Sounds about right. 4K is all that is needed. And it is about the same as 2k, if you cut the screen in half to be like a multiplex has. It is definitely HFR, I assume it's 60 per eye. Hobbit was 48 per eye, but only 2k, but on a smaller screen.
So, it's a bit better than the Hobbit movies. And that's what it looked like.
Folks don't seem to realize the enormous difference in 2k and 4K, and then 8k. If the movie was 8k, everything would have to be rendered at 16 times the size of the Avatar movie. Creating enormous amounts of data that no one would see. Add in the HFR, and that multiples it by 2.5, so folks really think Disney had the CGI done at 40 times the rendering as the Avatar movie.
OK.
In theory. But there was grain to be factored in, the resolution wasn't really that high. Plus, it wasn't rendered on a computer.
I bet if you asked people if Soarin 2.0 is 16 tiemes less resolution than Soarin 1.0, they would think you were insane.
There are fake 8k home projectors that use pixel shift, just as low end 4K home projectors are really 2k using pixel shift.
There is most certainly not 8k 3D for home. Unless it's some special half rate 3D which would be awful.
And of course there is probably about 10 minutes of 8k source to watch anyway.
Not to mention unless you have a 20 foot screen you are watching at 2 or 3 feet, buying an 8k projector for your home would be a complete waste of money.
Here you go...
DAK - AVATAR land - the specifics
In the semi-recent picture, you can see the two low-tech black mechanisms sticking down from under one of the boats. I know a few people (some on here iirc) asked about the ride system, and I kept reiterating that I'm only 99% certain it's a Jungle Cruise syle system, but, these latest...
After searching some more, one source says it's projected at 10k, which is odd, although the 10 is really just the horizontal pixel count. Of course, that is not the right way to measure the resolution, as the screen is very large. And it can't be 10k if it uses 4 4K projectors anyway. And it is 60fps, not 120. Although it's 60 per eye.
It is also interesting that it is claimed to be presented at 10k, but they dance around what it was rendered at. I must assume that means it is upgraded to 10 or 8k. As, again, a large part of that resolution is unseen, especially on a ride, where your eyes are moving.
It does look to have the same resolution as my local LieMAX screen on a pixel per distance measure. Which is really more than enough with all the motion blur and lens flares used.
It is still theoretically lower resolution than Soarin 1, although I doubt you could find anyone who would say it looks that way.
Soarin was a yawn too. But no one said it was the best ride ever.
Wngo905
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You lost me when you ended a sentence with a preposition. It is time to move on.
Ahhh, the irony/cluelessness is strong with this one.
wdwperry
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solidyne
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Ha, I think you meant prescient, but yeah they are indeed poignant in a way...!
Lensman
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ThistleMae
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In my opinion, FOP is the best ride I've ever been on. I like the fact that you sit in a motorcycle like position, and I feel like I'm actually turning the banchee through the scenes. I guess everyone's taste is certainly different for sure. I'm excited for MMRR, I have no idea what to expect.
DisneyfanMA
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I hope this uses some of the effects I've seen on overseas disney attractions. Specifically the mystic manor and the pirates of the caribbean. I hope its not just a movie screen, but actual props and physical things, special affects and screens all mixed in. It sounds like that is what they're going to do from what I can tell. Hope it is indeed open in spring 2020, I'm planning to go in Nov 2020.
ps: It's a bit shocking to me how few ride attractions exist at HS. I haven't been there since it was MGM and had just opened but even with all the change and 30 years of time there isn't much to ride on there. Sounds like with TS land, Star wars and this ride that may be changing for the better.
ps: It's a bit shocking to me how few ride attractions exist at HS. I haven't been there since it was MGM and had just opened but even with all the change and 30 years of time there isn't much to ride on there. Sounds like with TS land, Star wars and this ride that may be changing for the better.
ThistleMae
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Yes, I'm excited for the additions. I hardly spend any time in HS, it's like a 1/2 day or less there in the past several years. I loved the GMR so I hope the new ride doesn't disappoint. I'm also excited for the Slinky Dog Coaster ride, it looks cool. As far as Star Wars, unless I can get a FP+, I'm not waiting in super long lines.
EricsBiscuit
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I'm most excited about seeing the locomotive and hearing the whistle.