Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

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Hawg G

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peter11435 said:
You are inferring a lot more than justified from a single simple diagram with little detail. Your understanding of ride timing is also far too simplistic and ignores past precedent established with dozens of other attractions including the very attraction this one is replacing.
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Ahh, so you can't say where I'm wrong just attack me for being wrong.
 
TJJohn12

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Hawg G said:
The ballet isn't just the dance studio. Pooh has different levels of "ballet". One room of chaos movement. Then in a few others the cars change position, one will switch sides, one will slow down for another to get in front. It's a constant ballet.
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Cool attempt to retconn there - and I agree that the whole darned ride is going to be a ballet - but that’s not how you were using the term a few posts ago:

WIth the layout, and scenes listed, you aren't going to be in the dance studio very long at all, and it's not very big, so the "ballet" looks to be brief.
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Hawg G

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TJJohn12 said:
Cool attempt to retconn there - and I agree that the whole darned ride is going to be a ballet - but that’s not how you were using the term a few posts ago:
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Not retconning. The ballet will be brief. Not sure if the dance studio is ballet or not. As I said before, this ride covers a LOT more ground than MM or PHH. Probably more than twice as much space. There won't be time for switching around. ANd I don't think MM does it at all, except for the splits in the first and second rooms.

Still waiting on the fundamentals of ride design I don't understand.
 
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Magenta Panther said:
Gotta step in here...dude, what are your credentials, exactly? Peter is one of the credible insiders here. Very knowledgeable about the parks and attractions. What are your connections regarding same? What is your area of expertise?
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Then I'd LOVE for him to teach me where my statements are wrong about ride timing, how many scenes there are, etc. I'd love for him to point out where I'm wrong in my fairly straight forward assumptions. Really the only thing not crystal clear is scene length, but I'm going to stick with the 50 second or so range that Mystic Manor has. This one MIGHT be a bit longer, but it doesn't change any of my comments about ride timing.

I guess he could go in to minutia regarding how some scenes are slightly shorter than others due to sight lines, and cars needing to get out first, and how newer ride scenes have a hold pattern if there is a backup to keep the ride from just stopping. That's all true too, but well beyond what I was commenting on. This ride could separate out and make it so all cars don't experience the same thing, sorta like the Gangster/Western split. That would sorta suck for a ride like this where there isn't much need for that to happen, and they could just make the ride one scene time longer, or even have a parallel duplicate long scene like the second one in Ratatouille. Although seeing all the dramatic theme shifts from scene to scene, that would make the ride a little less chaotic, but it cheats the guests out of the whole experience. Especially a ride that will be impossible to get FP+ for for many years, so riding twice on a trip will be unlikely, not even taking into account the odds you'll see all scenes. I always hated that about the new Star Tours. So few people ride it enough to see all the scenes, it's a feature that doesn't help 90% of visitors.
 
Andrew C

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MisterPenguin said:
By "ballet" we mean the ride vehicles will be en pointe on their toes and will be doing aerial jump spins with some of the vehicle catching the others, right?

Because, when we see the word "ballet" it must be taken literally, right?
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Actually, pointe technique doesn't really occur until after several years of initial ballet training. So if this ride opens up in 2020...maybe around 2024 it will be ready? Maybe even later...
 
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Hawg G

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TrainChasers said:
If gringotts isn’t an e-ticket... what do you count flight of passage? Ha.
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Flight of Passage. WORST. OVERRATED. MOVIE. EVER.

Sorry, I just don't get the craziness for FoP. Was it expensive? Yeahl. Is the video pretty? Yeah. Is it groundbreaking in any way over the 20 year old Soarin' ride? No. one could argue it has lower resolution than the original film version even.

But, I mean, IMAX was invented, what, 50 years ago. So, we have 50 year old screen size, with a moving platform, and your legs are spread apart a few times. It's a cool ride. But barely worth much more time than the crazy long queue and preshows take.
 
Rich Brownn

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Hawg G said:
Flight of Passage. WORST. OVERRATED. MOVIE. EVER.

Sorry, I just don't get the craziness for FoP. Was it expensive? Yeahl. Is the video pretty? Yeah. Is it groundbreaking in any way over the 20 year old Soarin' ride? No. one could argue it has lower resolution than the original film version even.

But, I mean, IMAX was invented, what, 50 years ago. So, we have 50 year old screen size, with a moving platform, and your legs are spread apart a few times. It's a cool ride. But barely worth much more time than the crazy long queue and preshows take.
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Soarin' IMAX has been downgraded so FoP at 8kl has higher ez. Not sure what the frame rate is but I expect its over 28fps easily. The fact that the entire side of the building slides up and down gives a drop feeling Soarin' cannot match. The screen remains hidden until the show begins (unlike Soarin'). It has a highly detailed queue (with an animatronic) unlike Soarin'. The screen doesn't distort the image, unlike Soarin' .......
 

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