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gustaftp

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I like the Tiki Room.
I like Muppet Vision 3D -- it never gets old for me.
I like it's a small world.
I like the Disney-Pixar film festival in the Imagination Pavilion.

I think the technology behind Magic Bands is cool, but I prefer having a plastic park card that I can carry in a cash clip.

Large strollers should be banned for children over the age of 3.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
My mother is physically disabled and requires an ECV due to heart conditions, cancer, and arthritis among other things. It's really quite nasty to ban hurt people from the park as well as children who will tire from long hard days they're not used to. Sorry to inconvenience your perfect existence but the parks aren't a restricted club yet.
Sorry your mom has those issues. What is it an ECV provides her that you, pushing her in a wheelchair, doesn't? And I certainly hope that a trip to WDW, with all the travel stress, heat stress, crowd stress, and other stresses involved, is within her capacity to tolerate...
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Sorry your mom has those issues. What is it an ECV provides her that you, pushing her in a wheelchair, doesn't? And I certainly hope that a trip to WDW, with all the travel stress, heat stress, crowd stress, and other stresses involved, is within her capacity to tolerate...
Easy answer.... independence! When you have been the driving force of a family and all of a sudden find yourself dependent on your family or friends to function. That, in particular, also puts a major burden on the pusher as well as the pushie. Is it not bad enough that people can no longer participate in life like they once took for granted, but, because for some unknown reason people find it unacceptable that you use a mobility device that allows you to be with family and not be a burden? Everyone's day is coming and even though you don't understand it right now believe me you will.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
This whole thread is depressing and sucks........ 😲

Ok its not all bad.... But what's with all the hate for strollers and ECV's?

Here's my additions;
..... Im not a fan of the Pirates movie additions to the ride
..... SWGE seems quite over blown....especially considering its modeled after a place no one has herd of or seen?
...... Pandora's river ride has 1 anamatronic? What's going on, Walt would loose it!
......
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Easy answer.... independence! When you have been the driving force of a family and all of a sudden find yourself dependent on your family or friends to function. That, in particular, also puts a major burden on the pusher as well as the pushie. Is it not bad enough that people can no longer participate in life like they once took for granted, but, because for some unknown reason people find it unacceptable that you use a mobility device that allows you to be with family and not be a burden? Everyone's day is coming and even though you don't understand it right now believe me you will.
I don't have a problem with wheelchairs, as I pointed out earlier in this thread. And on a day like this...
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I'd like to think a caring family would want to be more helpful, and would not find their ailing family member "a burden"... in fact, would be even closer helping out by pushing a wheelchair instead of worrying about the potential issues with an ECV.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I don't have a problem with wheelchairs, as I pointed out earlier in this thread. And on a day like this...
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I'd like to think a caring family would want to be more helpful, and would not find their ailing family member "a burden"... in fact, would be even closer helping out by pushing a wheelchair instead of worrying about the potential issues with an ECV.
It's not completely about the family and it isn't about Wheelchairs and I never said it was... it has a lot to do with the mental happiness of the person with the limited mobility. But, what the heck what do we care about old people or people with physical problems as long as those of us that are healthy can enjoy the parks without having those awful ECV's to interrupt our fantasy's. By the way you know as well as I do that picture is not indicative of the general look of a park. It is obvious that those people are heading for a specific place, parade ending or something special, not just generally wandering around and where are all those ECV's that we are so worried about. Or even wheelchairs or strollers, for that matter.
 

scarr13311

Active Member
To keep it clear, these are things that I don’t like about what’s happened at Disney:

Too much alcohol allowed. Yep, remember this is my opinion. Nothing wrong with alcohol. It is the people that consume too much that spoil things. And unfortunately many who consume don’t know when to stop. Ruining Epcot. Hang out around the Japan shops late in the evening or head into the ladies room in Germany if you don’t believe me. It can be pretty disgusting.

On a lighter note: We miss Mickey and Minnie’s homes.

Wish they’d kept old Soarin’.

Too many lamp posts and cement in the new hub.

HEA sucks.

Sorry to say but I totally agree too much alcohol at Disney, was at the Food and Wine at Epcot last year and people where all over the place loud, obnoxious, and bumping into everyone; and yes I agree about the disgusting rest rooms. Not to mention the people who with another alcohol drink in hand standing over the garbage cans throwing up. Guess they are too drunk to figure out they should stop. I really feel sorry for the cast members who have to clean up the mess. But adding alcohol brings more money in for Disney.
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
I intend to defend the people that your self-centered attitudes are hurting.

No one is being hurt, not any more than anyone intends any sort of harm. People who don't need ECV's but clog the walkways while running down unsuspecting pedestrians is the definition of "self-centered".
 

DisneyJoe

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I don't have a problem with wheelchairs, as I pointed out earlier in this thread. And on a day like this...
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I'd like to think a caring family would want to be more helpful, and would not find their ailing family member "a burden"... in fact, would be even closer helping out by pushing a wheelchair instead of worrying about the potential issues with an ECV.

I often travel to WDW or DLR alone for business, and even when my family does travel with me, my wife is very petite and it would be extremely taxing on her to push my 175lbs 10-15 miles a day. Even if my 27yo son was traveling with me, if he wanted to do something on his own, I would be stranded.

An ECV gives me independence.

People need to stop guessing how easy things are in a wheelchair vs an ECV, being pushed etc, potential issues etc.

Rent a wheelchair for a day, have your family member push you all day, and then the next day rent an ECV, then come here and tell me about it.
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
An ECV gives me independence.
Until the batteries run out.

People need to stop guessing how easy things are in a wheelchair vs an ECV, being pushed etc, potential issues etc.
Nobody here is supposing life is easier for wheelchair-bound guests. I can see, however, where there would be no incidents of ECV drivers hitting other guests if there were no ECVs in the parks.

Rent a wheelchair for a day, have your family member push you all day, and then the next day rent an ECV, then come here and tell me about it.
End of the day, if I was sure I wasn't ruining their day, I'd rather have a family member with me in a wheelchair than tool off into the WDW crowds in an ECV.
 

DisneyJoe

Well-Known Member
Until the batteries run out.
Has happened to me once in 9 years, and only because it was a Disney ECV, and it was quickly replaced with a phone call. Any rented from offsite have double batteries that last 16+ hours.

End of the day, if I was sure I wasn't ruining their day, I'd rather have a family member with me in a wheelchair than tool off into the WDW crowds in an ECV.

You're completely missing the point - the person in a wheelchair doesn't want to be tied to any one person all day - you'd be ruining their day as well as the person pushing the wheelchair.

If I am in a wheelchair, and my family is going to an attraction without me, I'd need to sit and wait for them to return.
If I am in an ECV, I am free to do what I want.

If I am in a wheelchair and need to use the men's room, someone needs to push me there.
If I am in an ECV, I can go there myself.

If the person pushing my wheelchair puts me in a corner and leaves me, I am pretty much stuck there until they return. In an ECV, I am not.

Unless the person using the wheelchair is very adept at moving themself around in it, they have very limited range of motion when using it in a theme park - especially with crowds and hills and other obstacles.
 

Dreaming of Disney World

Well-Known Member
Until the batteries run out.


Nobody here is supposing life is easier for wheelchair-bound guests. I can see, however, where there would be no incidents of ECV drivers hitting other guests if there were no ECVs in the parks.

End of the day, if I was sure I wasn't ruining their day, I'd rather have a family member with me in a wheelchair than tool off into the WDW crowds in an ECV.
I think people who actually use wheelchairs and ECVs are more knowledgeable about what it's like to use them than you.
 

CaptainAmerica

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I think people who actually use wheelchairs and ECVs are more knowledgeable about what it's like to use them than you.
Not the ones who only use them at Walt Disney World. My mother-in-law rented one one time and she was a danger to herself and others. It was mortifying. She was literally ripping down racks of merchandise because she couldn't control the damn thing.
 

DisneyJoe

Well-Known Member
Not the ones who only use them at Walt Disney World. My mother-in-law rented one one time and she was a danger to herself and others. It was mortifying. She was literally ripping down racks of merchandise because she couldn't control the damn thing.
I disagree. I only use them at Disney parks, but I keep my eyes on the road. I see other drivers looking up in the sky or elsewhere. It needs to be driven like a car. Doing otherwise causes issues.

Some also don't realize there is a speed control - or they do and they have it on full speed. That can cause problems too.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
No one is being hurt, not any more than anyone intends any sort of harm. People who don't need ECV's but clog the walkways while running down unsuspecting pedestrians is the definition of "self-centered".
And people that stand in judgement feeling that they know that those people are not in need of the mobility device are the definition of arrogant and self absorbed. So what's the point. As a member of the human race the very fact that we are even having this discussion is total proof that we have declined as a civilization. We are the ones that are self centered no matter what side we are on. I have been going to WDW for 35 years. I have never even been close to being "run down". Know why because I am aware of my locations and that of others. I do not think it is solely responsibility of others to protect myself from injury. I take a proactive roll in that and make sure I don't put myself in a place where I will get injured. I know how those machines work, I know that they do not have intuitive braking, I know enough to not step in front of one. I look before I alter my directions. I have witnessed others being hit, but, only after they stepped in front of one. Then watched the idiots yell at the scooter and stroller operator because they themselves stepped in front of a moving vehicle.

What we need to do is stop trying to constantly blame others for our inability to be conscious of our surrounding, be thankful that we are not in a position to need one of them and be completely aware of how fast that can become us. It happens sometimes in nanoseconds.
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
And people that stand in judgement feeling that they know that those people are not in need of the mobility device are the definition of arrogant and self absorbed.

Not so much. We have professionals in healthcare and insurance who get paid handsomely to do just that. I completely fine with their determinations.

I have never even been close to being "run down". Know why because I am aware of my locations and that of others. I do not think it is solely responsibility of others to protect myself from injury.

I do know. It's because thus far, you've fallen on the fortunate side of the statistics. Happens every day that I don't get hit by an oncoming drunk driver.
 

spock8113

Well-Known Member
there's too much Star Wars at Hollywood Studios Yep, between the movies and rides, they want their 4 billion dollars back. But, at the same time, people do love the franchise. It's definitely present day and nostalgia.

Disney should have built all-encompassing Pixar Land and Lucasfilm Land instead of Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge, respectively I think this is more a matter of crowd control and "moychandising". Blending two different franchises would possibly be too confusing.............and Lucas may have stipulated by putting down the plastic strip to say, "I don't want your groceries fraternizing with my groceries."

Downtown Disney is a more exciting name than Disney Springs The word Springs sounds fresh and bubbly as opposed to "Pleasure Island". That sounds more like an 80's rom/com. Let's be real and just call it the Disney Mall.

Pop Century Legendary Years would've been better than Art of Animation I used to stay at the Pop and looked out on those original abandon buildings frequently learning that 9/11 put them in that condition. While it was obvious was the Legendary Years theme-ing based on what remained was going to be a continuation. Disney decided to change it up some and update it as well. I've been at the AOA and I like the theme-ing. Besides, while going back to the teens, 20's 30's and 40's, I think the Pop has enough retro buildings to fill the bill.
paper FPs were a better system than FP+ AYE! But it was discovered early on how to manipulate the machine from the magic button in back. The paper and litter problem probably played a small part as well. The Wizard Behind the Curtain at a desk 10 miles away can control things much easier thru computers and software while giving Disney crucial data for crowd control.

Hollywood Studios should've stayed a working film studio YES, that's all.

Disney should have built Beastly Kingdom instead of Pandora Yes, again, but with Pandora, there's no personnel required to take care of the animals, or food or schedules, not to mention required real estate. Viola, just turn on the Pandora power switch and walk away.

putting Frozen and Guardians of the Galaxy in Epcot are terrible ideas I watched the Norway ride be built over time and hoped it'd be good based on the flumes being installed. It was ok, too short. Now, once again, Disney needs to use their TV/movie franchise to promote their park, that's how it's always been done. The problem is, while nicely done, they only had what they had so the ride is still short. Wait for it, wait for it..........Let it go. Guardians of the Galaxy....that replaced an aging informative World's Fair type of ride with yet another Disney franchise. I can't wait to go on to see what they've done. It's a big building with big possibilities.

I liked the Millionaire show at Hollywood Studios We got picked for the front row and I literally had a panic attack, DUH. Millionaire may date itself as well but then Indiana Jones still lives on. We stole a British show, again (IT Crowd-Big Bang) and so on...............

the Pixar Short Film Festival is a lame excuse for a Captain EO replacement. Disney should've just brought back HISTA instead. I bought the Pixar Short DVD. I always liked Honey I Shrunk the Audience, but that too is an older franchise that fewer and fewer people are familiar with as it's rare airing frequency is controlled by you-know-who. Where are you Matt Frewer? Heck, before the Great Movie Ride, I had no idea who Billy Murray (not Bill Murray) or Bugsby Berkeley were!
It is sad when an old favorite gets torn down, but hopefully, the replacement is just as good, however, some of Disney's "improvements" have fallen short.
Who knows, in 10 years you might be saying, "I can't believe they're tearing down the Slinky Rollercaoster."

Prepared to take the sting of the Scorpion!
 

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