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Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
StarWarsGirl95 said:
On a serious note, I could use some thoughts on this situation:

Y'all know I've been complaining about Finance right? (well, if not, I've been complaining about Finance).

Well, today, we got test grades back from our second test. My first test grade was a 75. I asked my professor about it, and he said it was "good". Maybe with a 15 point curve it would be good. Today, he gave us back our other tests. I thought I had done well, but I had gotten a 70. Another student complained to the professor about how poorly the class had done. The student asked the class who had gotten a 70 or above on the test. Know how many students raised their hands? Three, including me. So the majority of the class got a D or failed. D's do not get degrees. The professor's response was essentially that it couldn't be his fault and that everyone wasn't trying hard enough. A student countered saying that he had done about 15 hours of preparation for this test, in groups and on his own, only to fail. Not only that, but several of us approached the professor about the last problem on the test. While the general concept had been covered in the class, the specifics on that last problem had not been covered. As a result, most of the class, minus one or two people, did not get the correct answer on the last problem. The professor basically indicated that it couldn't possibly be his fault and that this was the stupidest group of people that he had ever taught in his entire life. The class average was just above a 60. When I asked about a curve, he basically said he might have thought about it if none of us had complained.

I'm not overreacting am I? This does not seem like it is our fault. What's more, I feel like writing a letter or speaking to an Associate Dean about this class because otherwise, it seems like a large number of students will fail or not be able to move on in the program.
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This happened in the small private college my DS first attended. I would quietly go and speak with your equivalent of the Department Chair or the Dean. Sometimes a verbal conversation is not as formal of a thing for them to investigate. Matter of factly outline and don't forget the stupid comment and the percentage failing or near failing along with no curve because your class questioned material covered. I'd politely state how disconcerting it is for a college to have such a high volume of students not being able to move onto the next level and that you are concerned for yourself, other students and the professor himself. I'd ask him/her if they could please look into the trends in that course/class you are in.

You can always go on the record if an informal conversation doesn't go as you want it too. In my sons case the dean upped everyone's grades to a B or an A.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
catmom46 said:
This is why I think they should get rid of tenure. Why should terrible professors get to keep their jobs??
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Oh Tenure. The pro's and con's.

Sadly their are as many evil administrators as there are professors, teachers, instructors etc. You get rid of tenure, it is budget friendly for an administrator to unload a long term, higher salaried professor freeing up more funds for his own department. Start eliminating tenure and the real good professors will head to the private sector.

I've wrestled in between my own ears over tenure. It remains because there is yet to be a viable alternative.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
betty rose said:
I love Texas, hubby and I vacationed in Austin, and loved the river walk. We also vacationed in Corpus Christi, you have a beautiful State. I saw some blue bonnets when we came in the early spring. I love that lady bird Johnson, had all those planted. No political statement...I just love blue bonnets.
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No worries. It is always nice to hear someone say something pleasantly benign about a political family. Gives us all hope.
 
donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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Gabe1 said:
And speaking of which, another poor choice of coffee mugs. What did they do to Stitch?
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I didn't even begin to recognize that as Stitch until I saw it in your post.
Good grief. WTH did they do to him, indeed...?!?!?! :confused:

Hmmmmm...

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StarWarsGirl

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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Gabe1 said:
This happened in the small private college my DS first attended. I would quietly go and speak with your equivalent of the Department Chair or the Dean. Sometimes a verbal conversation is not as formal of a thing for them to investigate. Matter of factly outline and don't forget the stupid comment and the percentage failing or near failing along with no curve because your class questioned material covered. I'd politely state how disconcerting it is for a college to have such a high volume of students not being able to move onto the next level and that you are concerned for yourself, other students and the professor himself. I'd ask him/her if they could please look into the trends in that course/class you are in.

You can always go on the record if an informal conversation doesn't go as you want it too. In my sons case the dean upped everyone's grades to a B or an A.
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Yes, I think that is what I will end up having to do if my professor does not change his mind. I'll probably have to privately speak with him a bit more before I make that decision. In which case I would go speak with the Department Chair (Associate Dean). Good thing is that I had her last semester and even though I hated her class because of all the group work, I built a good rapport with her. I actually like her better now that I no longer have her. :hilarious:
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
betty rose said:
I understand, if I listened to the ringing in my ears, yes it's in my deaf ear....Doc say's we have a brain memory for sounds. Even after losing hearing. I still hear those sounds in my deaf ear..... So I always put on a sound machine....the ocean, or the T.V. weather channel, when it plays music. I've been know to go asleep with a controller in my hand and ordered things in my sleep.:joyfull::joyfull::D:rolleyes:
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Oh My! :jawdrop: :joyfull: :greedy:
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
StarWarsGirl95 said:
Yes, I think that is what I will end up having to do if my professor does not change his mind. I'll probably have to privately speak with him a bit more before I make that decision. In which case I would go speak with the Department Chair (Associate Dean). Good thing is that I had her last semester and even though I hated her class because of all the group work, I built a good rapport with her. I actually like her better now that I no longer have her. :hilarious:
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Those are good ones to latch onto. My DD her last semester had to do an independant project and get a professor to oversee her work. She had one professor that liked her a lot and she agreed to be her sponsor to oversee. Since my DD is like you and was always 2 steps ahead of things, the professor was very kind. An A+ and neither of them were tortured.

I hope the rest of the students realize you guys are there to be taught and pay a nice sum to be educated. This dude isn't delivering what the college promises, an education.
 

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