Captain EO to return to Disneyland, EPCOT maybe?

[EPCOT Explorer]

I didnt know you had a "source" :lol:

Martin also heard that SSE's descent wasnt finished and that they would be adding more to it and bringing back Tomorrow's Child which the second I heard it sounded like a fantasy. I trust Martin but I think his source isn't that great for up to the minute info.

What I would imagine they are going to do, and this is my own speculation, is go back and reuse the FULL ride building this time. Not necessarily the same tracklayout with the turntable but just fully use the building (that means getting rid of that imageworks at the end of the ride and the bigass queue area). There was also a rumor on this site that it would use the upstairs imageworks area too which would be kinda cool. Though i'd prefer it if it stayed the imageworks and just let guests up there.

What can I say? I do.:shrug:

I'm not here to argue for Martin. I will say though, that a TON of other people said the same things, all at the same time.

Upstairs is a fantasy. That's impossible.

But yes, I could see them using the old ride space, instead. Both plans (theater and old space) are plausible.:wave:

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

Unfortunately, I think I'd have to agree that expanding the ride into the Magic Eye Theater space sounds unlikely. First, that on top of the ride's original length seems like it'd be a looong OmniMover. Probably much longer than The Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, etc., right? Second, I'm not an expert on such things, but I imagine it'd be quite pricey to build the ride out that way, however they go about doing it. Of course we'd all love a two hour Journey Into Imagination with Figment and Dreamfinder, but is the expense of expanding the ride in such a manner really worth it, or would it be better spent doing something truly mind-blowing with the length of the original attraction. Now if they're willing to give this thing the enormous budget to do both, I'm all for it, but I don't think so, but it just seems too expensive for a ride longer than what they've been known to build.

What I think does sound plausible is the rumor that the pavilion will be somewhat reorganized to centralize traffic flow to and from the various attractions, ala The Land.

 

[The Conundrum]

Unfortunately, I think I'd have to agree that expanding the ride into the Magic Eye Theater space sounds unlikely. First, that on top of the ride's original length seems like it'd be a looong OmniMover. Probably much longer than The Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, etc., right? Second, I'm not an expert on such things, but I imagine it'd be quite pricey to build the ride out that way, however they go about doing it. Of course we'd all love a two hour Journey Into Imagination with Figment and Dreamfinder, but is the expense of expanding the ride in such a manner really worth it, or would it be better spent doing something truly mind-blowing with the length of the original attraction. Now if they're willing to give this thing the enormous budget to do both, I'm all for it, but I don't think so, but it just seems too expensive for a ride longer than what they've been known to build.

What I think does sound plausible is the rumor that the pavilion will be somewhat reorganized to centralize traffic flow to and from the various attractions, ala The Land.

Unless Imagination 4.0 is a thrill ride then it would require alot more space

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

Upstairs is a fantasy. That's impossible.

I can swear that all of the rumors I've read about this upcoming thing have included a new ImageWorks upstairs. I don't see what's so impossible about it. The fire evac issue? It'd be way easier to add stairs/escalators/ramps/elevators/whatever to the second floor than it would be for all of the demolition and construction needed to expand the ride over to Magic Eye. And that's only if that's not just a total myth in the first place, and not just a case of Disney not wanting Journey Into Your Imagination to be a Journey Into Their Pocketbook.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

Unless Imagination 4.0 is a thrill ride

It's not.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Unfortunately, I think I'd have to agree that expanding the ride into the Magic Eye Theater space sounds unlikely. First, that on top of the ride's original length seems like it'd be a looong OmniMover. Probably much longer than The Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, etc., right? Second, I'm not an expert on such things, but I imagine it'd be quite pricey to build the ride out that way, however they go about doing it. Of course we'd all love a two hour Journey Into Imagination with Figment and Dreamfinder, but is the expense of expanding the ride in such a manner really worth it, or would it be better spent doing something truly mind-blowing with the length of the original attraction. Now if they're willing to give this thing the enormous budget to do both, I'm all for it, but I don't think so, but it just seems too expensive for a ride longer than what they've been known to build.

What I think does sound plausible is the rumor that the pavilion will be somewhat reorganized to centralize traffic flow to and from the various attractions, ala The Land.[/size][/font]

All I can say, is that, you never know. They hope to return to what they had with this one. If they were to follow through, the rides length would just be the beginning.

 

[Enchantâmes]

Unfortunately, I think I'd have to agree that expanding the ride into the Magic Eye Theater space sounds unlikely. First, that on top of the ride's original length seems like it'd be a looong OmniMover. Probably much longer than The Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, etc., right? Second, I'm not an expert on such things, but I imagine it'd be quite pricey to build the ride out that way, however they go about doing it. Of course we'd all love a two hour Journey Into Imagination with Figment and Dreamfinder, but is the expense of expanding the ride in such a manner really worth it, or would it be better spent doing something truly mind-blowing with the length of the original attraction. Now if they're willing to give this thing the enormous budget to do both, I'm all for it, but I don't think so, but it just seems too expensive for a ride longer than what they've been known to build.

What I think does sound plausible is the rumor that the pavilion will be somewhat reorganized to centralize traffic flow to and from the various attractions, ala The Land.

Universe of Energy is a total of 45 minutes... (I know its not an OmniMover but who cares). If JII v.4 is 15-45 minutes long I don't think you'll hear any fans complaining. Especially after most of the complaints about the current version is that it is too short.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

Universe of Energy is a total of 45 minutes... (I know its not an OmniMover but who cares). If JII v.4 is 15-45 minutes long I don't think you'll hear any fans complaining. Especially after most of the complaints about the current version is that it is too short.

Oh, you certainly won't hear me complaining about it being too long, this was my very favorite ride when I was little. But I'm just saying that Imagineering doesn't build OmniMovers that long, and there's probably
good reason for that. It's one thing to see a couple of movies with a few feet of movement through Audio-Animatronic scenery in between, but it's probably a whole 'nother thing to sustain a fully immersive ride for half-an-hour (which is about what I guess the new Imagination would be were it to expand through Magic Eye).

 

[jedimaster1227]

Unless Imagination 4.0 is a thrill ride then it would require alot more space

It isn't. Not even considered a possibility for this. The pavilion will continue to host a family dark ride for the foreseeable future.

 

[Bigart]

I wondered if it might be brought back as a tribute to Michael...yes it is dated but yet its a classic. I think it would be a good move for EPCOT..even if just for a brief period. Its been so long since weve seen it and of course it's not available on DVD....nor is Magic Journeys for that matter which was also excellent.

 

[tirian]

Lots of quick answers:

• At one point, a Blue Sky idea involved extending the ride into the Magic Eye Theater to allow several large scenes. I don't think they're considering that anymore.

• Upstairs was turned over to Imagineering long ago, but that doesn't mean they've been able to do anything with it. They haven't.

• When SSE reopened, the descent was NOT finished. It seems that it's going to remain in its current state indefinitely. Also, no legitimate poster ever said "Tomorrow's Child" was definitely returning, just that Siemens really wanted it because it fits the company's new youth program.

It seems that nothing is going to happen to Imagination for at least a year.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Ah...Epcot...where the future is stuck in the 80's...

It was more imaginative, back then...:lol:


I don't see this as a depiction of the future. In no way would I want it to come back, save for the fact that it is honoring the late and great MJ.:wave:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Oh, you certainly won't hear me complaining about it being too long, this was my very favorite ride when I was little. But I'm just saying that Imagineering doesn't build OmniMovers that long, and there's probably
good reason for that. It's one thing to see a couple of movies with a few feet of movement through Audio-Animatronic scenery in between, but it's probably a whole 'nother thing to sustain a fully immersive ride for half-an-hour (which is about what I guess the new Imagination would be were it to expand through Magic Eye).

I'm thinking that they would speed it up, or make a abbreviated route.

Lots of quick answers:

• At one point, a Blue Sky idea involved extending the ride into the Magic Eye Theater to allow several large scenes. I don't think they're considering that anymore.

• Upstairs was turned over to Imagineering long ago, but that doesn't mean they've been able to do anything with it. They haven't.

• When SSE reopened, the descent was NOT finished. It seems that it's going to remain in its current state indefinitely. Also, no legitimate poster ever said "Tomorrow's Child" was definitely returning, just that Siemens really wanted it because it fits the company's new youth program.

I seems that nothing is going to happen to Imagination for at least a year.

That's a shame, if it's true. They had potential, there.


Of course, they could always just use the Imageworks are and move the "new" Imageworks upstairs.

 

[misterID]

Lots of quick answers:

It seems that nothing is going to happen to Imagination for at least a year.

That's better than what I heard, in that nothing would happen for EPCOT (besides perhaps a new Soarin) before 2012.

If its just a year that's great news.

 

[NMBC1993]

Theres also a group of people that still believe obama was born in Kenya. Should Obama quit because of that crazy minority?

The fact is fans have demanded Eo return and are willing to pay good money to see the show again. It is only temporary for like 2 weeks so whats the big deal?

The fans can demand all they want from TDO but that doesn't mean we'll ever get it. It's the same thing with the Adventurers Club...millions of fans beg Disney to re-open the club; I myself would pay for an annual pass just for the 1 club. TDO looks at it this way - spending extra money (unless it's on yet another DVC resort) = bad, keeping a stale attraction opened and not have a need to update = good. TDO isn't in running parks to make guests feel like they experienced something magical; they run them so they can get a nice bonus at the end of the year. Look at Disneyland for crying out loud, they get updates to Fantasmic....we get ours cut.

 

[DisneyMissy]

I sure hope they DO NOT bring this back. Why would they want something like that with someone with a bad image, he was a child molester for crying out loud.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The fans can demand all they want from TDO but that doesn't mean we'll ever get it. It's the same thing with the Adventurers Club...millions of fans beg Disney to re-open the club; I myself would pay for an annual pass just for the 1 club. TDO looks at it this way - spending extra money (unless it's on yet another DVC resort) = bad, keeping a stale attraction opened and not have a need to update = good. TDO isn't in running parks to make guests feel like they experienced something magical; they run them so they can get a nice bonus at the end of the year. Look at Disneyland for crying out loud, they get updates to Fantasmic....we get ours cut.

Exactly. What the fundamental difference is between TDA Execs and TDO Execs is something I need to know, and exemplify.:lol::lookaroun

 

[imagineer boy]

BTW, when has it been confirmed that DL is showing Eo? I havn't read that anywhere.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

BTW, when has it been confirmed that DL is showing Eo? I havn't read that anywhere.

I think that it's confirmed that it will be announced at D23 or something.:shrug:

 

[TP2000]

Here's the latest update today from Al Lutz on Miceage regarding Captain EO at Disneyland. From the Miceage front page:

"Editor's Note 9/4: Captain EO Update - Honey I Shrunk The Audience will now be closed next week, Tues thru Thurs. WDI will be installing the Captain EO special effects to prepare the theater for Thur's private performance of the old show for Jay Rasulo and other bigwigs in Anaheim for the D23 Expo. Assuming Rasulo can find Tomorrowland (turn right in front of the castle) and no one in the audience has any objections to the show, Rasulo should then announce EO's January return during his Expo presentation on the 12th. - Al Lutz"

It should be noted the closure of Honey I Shrunk The Audience is not listed on the disneyland.com calendar yet. But if the attraction is closed on Tuesday, we will know something is up, and there will be our proof that Al Lutz has a solid lock on this info and the rumor he started a month ago regarding Captain EO possibly returning to Disneyland.

Still no word yet on a WDW plan, but Al Lutz really doesn't deal with WDW news. But with this "One Disney" thing, why wouldn't they also spend the money to install it at Epcot if/when they install it at Disneyland?