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Comic Books

Green Lantern

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Are there any comic book lovers on this site? Come on, folks, I can't be the only one. Show some love for funny books and let's talk comics!
 

sbkline

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I used to be very interested in comic books in my junior high and high school years, but haven't collected since then. I was a big DC fan, specifically Action Comics and Superman. I refused to buy anything taking place after the Crisis on Infinite Earths series. I was interested in DC superhero comics of the 70s and early 80s, and was very interested in old back issues of Superman comics from the 50s and 60s. I was especially interested in first appearance issues, such as the first appearance of Supergirl (Action Comics #252), Bizarro, different kinds of Kryptonite, the super pets, etc.

Ironically, even though I was definitely a DC man in terms of the comics, I've found that Marvel has made the better movies.
 

Alexx

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Im a big comic book fan, but we dont get any of the GOOD comic books over here well especially where I live, I have to get them off Ebay or whenever I go to America.
 

Green Lantern

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Sure it counts! Comic books, comic strips, or Bazooka Joe gum wrapper comics, it all counts.

Alexx, ever read Fables? Or anything by Neil Gaiman or Alan Moore. As great as some US comics are, it's the English writers that have really made some amazing work of the DC books. Neil Gaiman's Sandman, Alan Moore's Killing Joke, Watchmen, or James Robinson's Starman.

Sbkline, DC comics recently retconned the old multi verse and brought them back. Crisis on Infinite Earths never happened now.

Marvel does make some great movies, but let's not forget the 1989 Batman, original Superman, the Flash TV series, Smallville and of course Batman Begins!
 

WDWFREAK53

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I haven't read them yet...but I do have the first 3 issues of "Trinity."

It's the team made up of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.
 

WDWFREAK53

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Ah, yes, the Big 3 of DC. Do you read any other comics?

No not really...if I see a storyline that interests me while I'm in the card store, I may pick it up...but nothing hardcore. I actually just received a #2 Civil War that is signed in the mail...and after reading it...I wish I had jumped onboard.

I just got done reading the first 3 Trinity...and it's not bad. Actually the Lantern showed up in the 3rd one.
 

Green Lantern

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Civil War is a great book, I recommend the trade if you want to read the rest of it. Mark Millar, who wrote it, is a great writer, I also recommend of his his run on Ultimate X-men, The Ultimates and Marvel Knights Spider-man.

If you liked what you saw with Green Lantern in Trinity, I highly recommed the current Green Lantern book my Geoff Johns. He has made this one of the best GL books ever. The Sinestro Corps War story line was amazing!
 

WDWFREAK53

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Civil War is a great book, I recommend the trade if you want to read the rest of it. Mark Millar, who wrote it, is a great writer, I also recommend of his his run on Ultimate X-men, The Ultimates and Marvel Knights Spider-man.

If you liked what you saw with Green Lantern in Trinity, I highly recommed the current Green Lantern book my Geoff Johns. He has made this one of the best GL books ever. The Sinestro Corps War story line was amazing!

A buddy of mine is currently reading Secret Invasion and loves it. The gist of it seemed uninteresting to me...but he's loving it.
 

Omnimover

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Are there any comic book lovers on this site?

I wouldn't call myself a "lover," but I do pick up trade paperbacks occasionally (I enjoy reading the stories, not collecting books). I'm a big fan of Alan Moore - I know I'm on the bandwagon here but even after 20 years Watchmen is still the most complex, deep, and intelligent comic ever written. I've read the book four times at various times in my life, and it's meant something different to me each time based on my life experience up to that point. I like some of his other stuff as well: I think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is just wonderful fun, and as someone who enjoys literature and pop culture those books are so much fun to read. They're less like stories and more like literary treasure hunts.

I like Gaiman; Sandman is wonderful but I never felt like I was really enthralled. Maybe just the content wasn't exactly my cup of tea, but I still recognize the talent and the craft. As an old-school Marvel fan from my younger days, I did have a lot of fun reading 1602, but again that wasn't so much a great piece of literature as a fun viewing of classic characters through a skilled writer's lens. Some of his novels are wonderful: I liked Neverwhere a lot.

Other books I read: Y: The Last Man (though I'm only through book 5), and I'm about to start the new Buffy: The Vampire Slayer Season Eight books. I loved Kingdom Come, though I'm a sucker for the whole "ethical issues with superheroes" angle. I read Millar's run on The Ultimates and really enjoyed it - I'm surprised Marvel let him get away with something that blatantly political in a major run book. I also really enjoyed J. Michael Straczynski's Midnight Nation. I'll read other stories once they're collected if they're recommended - I just prefer to have the whole thing there in my hand.

Wow... this post got long fast.
 

Number_6

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I really enjoy comics, but with the number of them I'd like to read, it's really not something I can justify spending my money on. My favorite heroes have always been the Speedsters, like The Flash. I was really upset when they started a brand new Flash series having Bart Allen(Impulse/Kid Flash) pick up the mantle of The Flash, only to kill him a year later. I really liked Bart. But at least they brought back Wally West. I was also enjoying the new Booster Gold series because it was something a little different and had what I thought was a pretty neat storyline. I read all of "52" and most of "Countdown." I may try to pick up the ones that are part of the "R.I.P. Batman" storyline, just to see what they are planning with that. For Marvel, I did read the Civil War storyline and most of the associated ones from the individual comic titles. I was reading Captain America for a little while as well, just to see what they did following his death (make Bucky a.k.a. Winter Soldier the new Cap). I also was having fun reading "Heroes For Hire" from Marvel. But that was mostly because I like Black Cat and she's a member of that group, though the other characters in it I ended up liking as well.
 

Green Lantern

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Omnimover, excellent taste in books! OK, let's get into this. I am really impressed with your reading of Watchmen 4 times! I especially admire that each reading has meant something different to you, not many books have that magic. I read Watchmen as well and enjoyed it. Need another reading of it actually. Will you see the movie? I loved V for Vendetta from Moore and love this League of Extraordinary Gentlemen books. Have you read the third one yet? I bought it but haven't read it yet. What of From Hell?

I'm kind of in the same boat as you are with Sandman. Gaiman is a great writer, yet I can't really absorb the material as much as I like. 1602 however was a fun read.

Y The Last Man is such an excellent book. I got hooked after the first trade, love it. I highly recommend the Starman Omnibus by James Robinson, which tells the story of Jack Knight, who reluctantly becomes the Starman after his brother, who inherits it from his father, dies in duty. It's a great read, and a completely differnt look at super hero books. I'm enjoying this book imensely.

Kingdom Come is genius, and let's not forget the beautiful artwork by Alex Ross either! Have you read Marvels? It came out before Kingdom Come, has the same art by Ross, and is just beautiful. Great look at the Marvel heroes. (The author slips my mind right now, Busiek?) Also Ruins is good, which takes a different look at Marvel heroes and what their lives would be like in real life. Well worth looking into.

Another great book is Arrowsmith, which tells the story of World War 1, but with a fantasy twist, where dragons and trolls and magic are part of our everyday world.

Maus also is an amazing read. It's an important book, not just for comic fans, but for everyone. I can recommend some more trades if you are interested in reading some other stuff.
 

Green Lantern

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Hi Number 6, if you are a Flash fan (nice choice by the way, I love Wally West), have you ever read the Geoff Johns run (ha, no pun intended!)? They are collected in trades now and Johns really did some amazing stuff with the book, especially with the Rogues, making them into a seriuos threat for Wally.

I agree that it was sad they killed off Bart. He wasn't my favorite Speedster, but he grew on me. He did have his appearance in Smallville though. Then again, this is comic books, and no one ever stays dead for long.
 

Omnimover

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Yeah, I'm planning on seeing the Watchmen movie. I have no illusions that it will do well at the box office - I just don't think it's the kind of thing to appeal to a general movie audience, especially one expecting a superhero movie. Zack Snyder is a fantastic director at least visually, and thanks to 300 he at least has enough freedom as director to do Watchmen the way he thinks it should be done. I think good films can come from Moore's work; the V for Vendetta movie was quite well done despite it's differences from the book. With comic book films, I generally feel that changes from the source material are more than acceptable, but the film must be true to itself and succeed on its own. If you make a change, it should be to the betterment of the story in the new medium. That's what I hope happens with Watchmen - it simply can't work as a direct translation a la Sin City. Watchmen is just too dense and many of the subtle stylistic choices are too specific to the graphic medium. I'm thinking it will be surprisingly good, though. Snyder has made it pretty clear that it's his dream project, and that kind of passion is always a good sign.

I really enjoyed the third League of Extraordinary Gentlemen book, though it's barely a comic really. You said you had it, and if you've thumbed through you'll see that it's really mostly text pieces with a story tying them all together. The fun is that you get a history of the League from it's inception to around the 1950's and they're all told as pastiches of other authors works. If you enjoy literature you'll really enjoy watching Moore write in the pen of other authors (e.g. there's a story about Prospero from The Tempest forming the first League, and it's written as a lost Shakespeare play). If you haven't seen it, a literary historian named Jess Nevins has a website where he basically breaks down all of the League books and points out and explains every reference in them. It's amazing how much is crammed in; just about every background character is likely from some other source.

I actually haven't read From Hell, but I assume I'll get around to it at some point. Same with Maus; one that I've been meaning to get around to but have just not done it yet. I did read Marvels and it was a lot of fun, but wasn't as engrossed as I was with Kingdom Come. The third issue of Marvels was excellent, though. Seeing the coming of Galactus from the point of view of just an average person was a really compelling idea.

I actually forgot about Starman! I read a lot of that when I was in college; my roommate was a big comic collector and Starman was just getting started around then. He passed them off and I was really hooked. Everything about that book felt so different - it was unlike any superhero book I'd read up until that point, and really ever since. I remember reading a scene where mobsters were arguing about which Stephen Sondheim musical was the strongest and thinking "wow, there's really something special going on around here." I never did finish the story; I should get the Omnibus and read it all.

Holy geez... super-long post #2....
 

Green Lantern

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You mentioned Jess Nevin's website regarding the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I'll have to check that out. That same person has two books out regarding the Leage. Heroes and Monsters: the unofficial companion to the Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol. 1 and A Blazing World: the unofficial companion to the Leage of Extraordinary Gentelment Vol. 2. I haven't picked these up yet, I plan to, but it sounds like the stuff that is in his website is in these books. I wonder if he will do a book for the 3 one?

I still need to read book 3, but have flipped through it. What I want to do is go back and reread books 1 and 2 then go into three. Keep it all fresh in my mind. I loved how the Nautilus looked in these books. That version and the Disney film are my favorite Nautilis'. What did you think of the film? I think it's just OK. It had some good moments, some cool scenes, but also was a bit blah. It could have been worse though (Catwoman, Steel, Electra) so I am not too upset. I'll watch it if it's on TV.

I am really loving Starman. The omnibus is well worth the money. When all is said and done they will have 6 of them out, which will cover the entire series. My only complaint about this book is that I wasn't reading it sooner, like back when it came out. The first omnibus is already out. Not sure when the second one is due, but both local comic shops as well as any book store will have it.

What did you think of The Rocketeer? Disney's comic film of the comic? Personally, I loved it. I love the comic and the film. Much like you said regarding changes in a comic book film (which I agree with by the way, well said), the changes they made from the comic to film did not harm the story in anyway. In fact, they helped make a much tighter story, while staying true to the heart of the comic.
 

WDWFREAK53

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Green Lantern...

Since you are "up" with all of the Comic Book news. Is there any news of a new Masters of the Universe comic? I remember them back in the day and I love the characters, I didn't know if they had done anything recently or are currently doing any books.
 

Green Lantern

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WDWFreak53,

there was a recenet (and by that I mean a few years go) Masters of the Universe comic. It was put out around the same time that the Cartoon Network He-Man show was on. They don't make it anymore, but it was a pretty cool book, beautiful art work.

In the early 80's DC Comics put out a He-man comic. He even teamed up with Superman!

There were about a dozen or so from the late 80's put out by Star Comics (who was part of Marvel Comics I believe).


Then, earlier in the 2000's, around 02, Image Comics began a series. There were around 4 or so of these issues?

Then in 2004 another comic company released another series. I'm not sure how many issues there was of this series though.

I'd check either milehighcomics.com or midtowncomics.com in case you want to order any. I was just on milehighcomics site and they have a bunch of He-man comics listed, some of the newer series. They also have color pictures of the cover so you can get a taste of the art.

Hope that helps!
 

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