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[Disney Irish]

Sure but like I said I don’t mind the pricing strategy or even the fact that he said it (which he shouldn’t have). Only that they just couldn’t wait a couple weeks to raise the prices.

Which is why maybe it was ill-timed, like maybe they didn't know it ahead of time and just raised them in anticipation that Disney would be at some point in the near future.

 

[CaptinEO]

That’s not a bad deal especially since it includes weekends. Sounds like it would be valid for when they open up the new Smugglers Run missions too.

Except in my case I’m doing mental gymnastics to NOT get a pass. That’s the intent. What I’m trying to avoid.

I see what you re saying but if I’m going only three days for the year than I went to max out those 3 days and kind of treat them like a non local and go with the LL’s. I don’t necessarily mean I want to ride crush. Just want to deal with as least stress as possible.

I see what you mean! To me a fun experience
is not trying to get everything done. As they add more rides and lands that becomes even more difficult.

But I understand wanting to make the most of it by buying Lightning Lane.

 

[DLR92]

I am still on the fence to renew mine. I have till June.
Makes me wish Disney would build another Disneyland to bring demand down!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I am still on the fence to renew mine. I have till June.
Makes me wish Disney would build another Disneyland to bring demand down!

I’ve been saying that for a decade, Disney needs another castle park somewhere in the middle of the country to take some pressure off DL and MK, no number of secondary parks is ever going to pull enough people away from DL and MK to make them manageable. I’ve given up hope it’ll happen in my lifetime though.

 

[coffeefan]

I’ve been saying that for a decade, Disney needs another castle park somewhere in the middle of the country to take some pressure off DL and MK, no number of secondary parks is ever going to pull enough people away from DL and MK to make them manageable. I’ve given up hope it’ll happen in my lifetime though.

They really should. Canada would make sense too for them to use Marvel as well. And there are other options as well.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They really should. Canada would make sense too for them to use Marvel as well. And there are other options as well.

If the Abu Dhabi park is succesful it could potentially open doors to areas with more diverse climates. If they can find ways to overcome the intense heat there they should be able to build nearly anywhere.

 

[DLR92]

I’m in the minority, I feel California can support two Disneyland.

 

[Parteecia]

Yes I tried it two years ago and only lasted 5 months. Hahah. I’m going to try again. My reason for letting it expire is different this time. I just can’t afford to spend $7,000 a year on Disneyland and also go on a nice family vacation and right now we’re more in need of the latter.

My question is, how often do you go to Disneyland? In other words, does a big vacation or two balance out against all of those Sundays when you would normally be at the parks? Will you still be looking to fill weekends?

 

[mickEblu]

My question is, how often do you go to Disneyland? In other words, does a big vacation or two balance out against all of those Sundays when you would normally be at the parks? Will you still be looking to fill weekends?

When we re not blocked out for the summer we go about twice a month. Usually skip October too since we’re blocked out weekends and I’ve had my fill of Halloween by then. Comes out to about 18-20 visits a year.

No obviously you’re getting a lot more entertainment out of a DL pass than a 7-
Day 10 vacation but this is more about what the soul needs right now. I’d also be lying if I said it hasn’t got a little stale here n there lately. I might feel differently if it didn’t take an hour and a half on the worst freeways in LA to get there. Also just think it’s a good year to take off on the heels of the 70th ending and with all the construction walls starting to go up. Looking at Spring or Summer 2027 as a good time to repurchase them.

Yeah that’s the issue. It’s finding things to do to fill the void that don’t ultimately end up costing you the same amount of money.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I’d also be lying if I said it hasn’t got a little stale here n there lately. I might feel differently if it didn’t take an hour and a half on the worst freeways in LA to get there.

I can 100% relate to this, if we lived 30 minutes from DL an AP would be such a no brainer, unfortunately with our stressful 4 hour drive we are often more stressed out when we get home than we were before going to DL for some fun in the first place. I wish Brightline was going to the station near Angels stadium, a 2.5 hour train ride, without all the insane traffic, would make DL a lot more appealing again.

We still love DL but we’ve been so many times it’s reached the point the negatives of getting there outweigh the positives of the park, if we could get there without dealing with LA traffic it would be a whole lot easier to justify the higher prices.

 

[coffeefan]

I’m in the minority, I feel California can support two Disneyland.

In a perfect world, we'd get a Kingdom Hearts castle park in the San Francisco region.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Considering Disneyland still relies on annual passes, do they really need a third gate?

Those relatively cheap passes have traditionally been used to fill in the gaps.

Until they can fill the parks with full price tickets, what would be the point?

 

[mickEblu]

Considering Disneyland still relies on annual passes, do they really need a third gate?

Those relatively cheap passes have traditionally been used to fill in the gaps.

Until they can fill the parks with full price tickets, what would be the point?

I’m guessing they know they can’t fill the gates with full price tickets at the consistency they want. Unless they drop tickets to 90s to early 2010’s prices.

 

[mickEblu]

Taking some family from Italy to Disneyland next month. Getting reemed for $450 for two one day Disneyland tickets + LL. Sorry cousins - no park hopping for you. lol Just not worth it or worth the hassle to hop over for Gaurdians and Incredicoaster. I’d say RSR but that would be either 90 valuable minutes or another $25 a head.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I’m guessing they know they can’t fill the gates with full price tickets at the consistency they want. Unless they drop tickets to 90s to early 2010’s prices.

I wonder if they'd ever try it.

Tokyo Disneyland only sells single day single park tickets. Prices range from $52 to $72 USD.

The market is likely way too different to compare, but it's interesting that it works for them.

I don't know if the average visitor realizes it, but paying top dollar to visit a park that's jam packed because the locals get huge discounts isn't appealing.

 

[mickEblu]

I wonder if they'd ever try it.

Tokyo Disneyland only sells single day single park tickets. Prices range from $52 to $72 USD.

The market is likely way too different to compare, but it's interesting that it works for them.

I don't know if the average visitor realizes it, but paying top dollar to visit a park that's jam packed because the locals get huge discounts isn't appealing.

Isn’t Tokyo always packed though too? It’s just packed with day ticket holders instead because the tickets are pretty affordable.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Isn’t Tokyo always packed though too? It’s just packed with day ticket holders instead because the tickets are pretty affordable.

By all accounts it is. I admittedly went on "slow" days and it was okay.

The thing is, crowded or not you know you're on equal footing with everyone. I've been to Disneyland where it's moderately busy and then the park is swamped from locals pouring in just to watch the fireworks, because they can.

That's the type of situation where it can feel unfair because I paid full price and my experience is impacted by people paying a fraction of what I did when you look at cost per day.

It also helps that in Tokyo you can get one or two free fastpasses per day, and if you buy one or two premium ones you're still paying less than a day in Anaheim.

Tokyo is crowded, but there isn't that nagging sense of resentment that your experience is being impacted by the company cramming a ton of extra people in via discounts.

And I'm not opposed to annual passes or discounts for locals outright by any means, but there has to be consideration for how it impacts people paying full price.

 

[DLR92]

I wish California can be radical with change. It unrealistic to buy cars. Insurance is going off the roof. Freeways and roads are clogged. Lack of proper maintenance. Neither party put much interest of the people but big businesses and extreme wealthy individuals.

The more I question why do CEO need to have unnecessary fat salaries and compensation, wealth gap becoming more worser than ever. I do not buy CM raises are causing direct impact to Disneyland expense.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I don't know if the average visitor realizes it, but paying top dollar to visit a park that's jam packed because the locals get huge discounts isn't appealing.

I think you just described the problem with Disneys push for high dollar guests, there’s not enough high dollar guests to fill the parks, I think they’d struggle to fill the parks even if they cut prices in half to $100 a day. They need APs filling up the extra capacity or the whole house of cards collapses.

We were long time APs and didn’t renew last year because we can only go about 20 days a year, that’s a ton of days but at $1700 for APs (we need weekends) it’s approaching $100 a day… DL isn’t worth $100 a day for a frequent guest, it’s absolutely worth that for a weekend or 2 a year but very few people are handing over $100 a day for a couple dozen visits a year.

They created parks that need tens of thousands of guests every single day to be profitable, then made them so expensive they can’t possibly attract that many guests without also offering massive discounts. The AP system allows them to gouge their day guests while also keeping the parks full of people who will eat, drink, and buy just enough junk to keep everything open. It’s packed by design.

 

[mickEblu]

By all accounts it is. I admittedly went on "slow" days and it was okay.

The thing is, crowded or not you know you're on equal footing with everyone. I've been to Disneyland where it's moderately busy and then the park is swamped from locals pouring in just to watch the fireworks, because they can.

That's the type of situation where it can feel unfair because I paid full price and my experience is impacted by people paying a fraction of what I did when you look at cost per day.

It also helps that in Tokyo you can get one or two free fastpasses per day, and if you buy one or two premium ones you're still paying less than a day in Anaheim.

Tokyo is crowded, but there isn't that nagging sense of resentment that your experience is being impacted by the company cramming a ton of extra people in via discounts.

And I'm not opposed to annual passes or discounts for locals outright by any means, but there has to be consideration for how it impacts people paying full price.

I see what you re saying. Do you think the average guest is aware though? You and I are as super fans. But do you think the average guest is aware of the park demographics? I don’t.

In your case, if you are willing to purchase LL’s Disneyland may be more in your favor than somewhere like TDR as annual pass holders are much less likely to purchase LLs. So while yes the entertainment is probably a bit harder to see or get a good spot the rides should technically be easier for you to get on.

On another note, which parks aren’t full of annual pass holders these days? All the CA parks seem to be majority pass holders.