MK New Beak and Barrel - Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge

SteveAZee

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Figments Friend

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Don’t ask me why, but earlier today during a random moment I was actually thinking about the food items on the menu and questioned why there are not more seafood offerings.

I mean, it’s a pirate themed lounge….and offers small plates / snacks.
You would think the piraty theme would warrant some fare from the ol’ sea.
Nothing offered contains fish, clams, crab, shrimp, etc…..just the Krakens Catch ( octopus ).
Find this interesting.

Perhaps the decision was made to keep the small plates more appealing to the masses as not everyone cares for seafood.
And seafood at a bar…? Yeah, I guess that doesn’t really ‘fit’ within the context of the place.
I’m sure it costs more to serve seafood offerings than it does to offer a plate of crisps with some dipping sauces….so maybe it is simply just that.

Anyway, today’s random thought.

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DisneyHead123

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Don’t ask me why, but earlier today during a random moment I was actually thinking about the food items on the menu and questioned why there are not more seafood offerings.

I mean, it’s a pirate themed lounge….and offers small plates / snacks.
You would think the piraty theme would warrant some fare from the ol’ sea.
Nothing offered contains fish, clams, crab, shrimp, etc…..just the Krakens Catch ( octopus ).
Find this interesting.

Perhaps the decision was made to keep the small plates more appealing to the masses as not everyone cares for seafood.
And seafood at a bar…? Yeah, I guess that doesn’t really ‘fit’ within the context of the place.
I’m sure it costs more to serve seafood offerings than it does to offer a plate of crisps with some dipping sauces….so maybe it is simply just that.

Anyway, today’s random thought.

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I’m guessing a small dish with tentacles looks good in social media photos. Also, a lot of the most broadly appealing seafood tends to be heavy chowders and dips that might play better to crowds in cold weather? Just a guess.
 

LittleBuford

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Went a second time (refreshing really does work!). I can confirm that they serve fountain drinks, though you have to ask. They won’t serve the Treasure Trove (one of the two non-alcoholic drinks on the menu) without the so-called garnish, which consists of confectionary items served on a plate next to the drink itself. It’s a silly policy that means that those who don’t want—or, for dietary reasons, can’t have—the confectionery items are prevented from enjoying the drink.

A bigger issue we ran into is that they won’t sell you the skull mug unless you get it with the rum, even if you’re willing to pay full price for it. That’s absolutely bonkers and really exclusionary if you don’t drink or can’t drink. In the end, the server spoke to her manager and made an exception for me, but you shouldn’t be forced to plead your way out of purchasing alcohol, especially in a Disney theme park.
 

Tony the Tigger

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For the prices Disney charges, it’s not crazy to think they could offer high quality drinks/ food and atmosphere. Both of those things. It shouldn’t always be one or the other. I’m no drink snob and I really think I’ll enjoy my experience. Just saying I do wish it wasn’t always a trade off.

Watching a couple videos it seems this place is extremely loud, to the point of being overwhelming. I saw several people covering their ears at the bar. I’m wondering if it’s way too loud for some. I’m kind of noise sensitive.

I'd be fine with fun and lively, not with extremely loud.

Same reason I can't stand Joyful! and the DJ/dance parties at the Communicore Plaza Stage.

Good thing you're limited to 45 minutes. ;) Yeah. I have tinnitus. I can only stand so much loud noise. I went with a friend to an Irish rock concert in a smallish music venue. I loved the music but my ears couldn't stand it. I had to leave.

Restaurants and bars used to have carpeted floors, until about the 1990s. And boy how disgusting the carpet in those places got! But hospitality went to hard floors, including concrete, and things got loud. The popcorn ceiling going away didn't help, haha. But overall, restaurants are a lot noisier nowadays than they were just in the 1980s and before. I have a really hard time having a conversation in these types of spaces.

If noise turns out to be a problem, they could suspend wood slat acoustic ceiling panels from the ceiling. Most examples of this are modern-looking, but no reason it couldn't be done custom/creatively to look like the dark stained ceiling a building like this probably would have had in the 18th century anyway, and a touch more nautical too.
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FYI, it’s not noise, it’s shtick. If and when you visit, you’ll see why people have fingers in their ears.
 

TheMaxRebo

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Went a second time (refreshing really does work!). I can confirm that they serve fountain drinks, though you have to ask. They won’t serve the Treasure Trove (one of the two non-alcoholic drinks on the menu) without the so-called garnish, which consists of confectionary items served on a plate next to the drink itself. It’s a silly policy that means that those who don’t want—or, for dietary reasons, can’t have—the confectionery items are prevented from enjoying the drink.

A bigger issue we ran into is that they won’t sell you the skull mug unless you get it with the rum, even if you’re willing to pay full price for it. That’s absolutely bonkers and really exclusionary if you don’t drink or can’t drink. In the end, the server spoke to her manager and made an exception for me, but you shouldn’t be forced to plead your way out of purchasing alcohol, especially in a Disney theme park.

I believe that is the same policy as at trade Sam's - the collective mugs come with the drink. So I guess just following that

Thought there isn't a two drink maximum there which limits what else you can order if you get the drink and just leave it untouched
 

networkpro

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Don’t ask me why, but earlier today during a random moment I was actually thinking about the food items on the menu and questioned why there are not more seafood offerings.

I mean, it’s a pirate themed lounge….and offers small plates / snacks.
You would think the piraty theme would warrant some fare from the ol’ sea.
Nothing offered contains fish, clams, crab, shrimp, etc…..just the Krakens Catch ( octopus ).
Find this interesting.

Perhaps the decision was made to keep the small plates more appealing to the masses as not ev.e9ryone cares for seafood.
And seafood at a bar…? Yeah, I guess that doesn’t really ‘fit’ within the context of the place.
I’m sure it costs more to serve seafood offerings than it does to offer a plate of crisps with some dipping sauces….so maybe it is simply just that.
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Anyway, today’s random thought.

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A bigger issue we ran into is that they won’t sell you the skull mug unless you get it with the rum, even if you’re willing to pay full price for it. That’s absolutely bonkers and really exclusionary if you don’t drink or can’t drink. In the end, the server spoke to her manager and made an exception for me, but you shouldn’t be forced to plead your way out of purchasing alcohol, especially in a Disney theme park.

Its the same with new release Tiki mugs at Trader Sams and the concoctions are as equally vile that come with those.
 

LittleBuford

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I believe that is the same policy as at trade Sam's - the collective mugs come with the drink. So I guess just following that

Thought there isn't a two drink maximum there which limits what else you can order if you get the drink and just leave it untouched
I don’t know the policy at Trader Sam’s. Oga’s, however, lets you pay for the mug (at full price, as if with the drink) without insisting that it come filled with alcohol. What on earth is the sense in making a guest be served an alcoholic drink they’re not going to touch? How on earth is such a policy fair to those who can’t drink?

It was totally at odds with the customer service I expect from Disney and actually marred our second visit quite a bit.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I don’t know the policy at Trader Sam’s. Oga’s, however, lets you pay for the mug (at full price, as if with the drink) without insisting that it come filled with alcohol. What on earth is the sense in making a guest be served an alcoholic drink they’re not going to touch? How on earth is such a policy fair to those who can’t drink?

It was totally at odds with the customer service I expect from Disney and actually marred our second visit quite a bit.

It might be with how it is set up for taxes, for legal reason, for any number rof reasons that you are paying for the drink and get the mug as a gift, not making for the merch.

You could have ordered it and just not drunk it, they don't force it down your throat

Not saying I love the policy but pretty easy way around it

I do know TS sometimes with have a NA option for the mugs - maybe they could go that route with two options but you do have to buy a drink with the mug coming with it
 
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TheMaxRebo

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I’m not sure why you’re not willing to simply agree that the policy is absurd, exclusionary, and, well, really un-Disney.

Cause I don't agree that it is - policy seems reasonable 🤷

You want the mug you buy the drink and can then opt to drink it or not, up to you- they then give you a new mug, not one that has had any alcohol in it and they don't watch to make sure you finish the drink before they give it to you.
 

LittleBuford

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Cause I don't agree that it is - policy seems reasonable 🤷

You want the mug you buy the drink and can then opt to drink it or not, up to you- they then give you a new mug, not one that has had any alcohol in it and they don't watch to make sure you finish the drink before they give it to you.
Forcing teetotalers and recovering alcoholics to sit there with an alcoholic drink they have no intention of consuming when they’re willing to pay full price for the mug is not a reasonable policy by any sensible standard, much less by Disney standards.

At least the management at Oga’s realises this.
 

LittleBuford

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Disney built a bar to encourage guests to drink alcohol because they feel it benefits them. It makes perfect sense. It is also exclusionary and un-Disney (un-classic-Disney, anyway).
I have no issue with the bar’s existence; it’a an amazing space, and I enjoy others like it on property (Trader Sam’s, Oga’s). But this is the first and only time I’ve felt excluded in such a space for being a non-drinker, and it really took me aback.
 

JD80

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Forcing teetotalers and recovering alcoholics to sit there with an alcoholic drink they have no intention of consuming when they’re willing to pay full price for the mug is not a reasonable policy by any sensible standard, much less by Disney standards.

At least the management at Oga’s realises this.

Are you a teetotaler or a recovering alcoholic?

edit: read your post, you don't drink.

I'm pretty sure this changes at some point in the near future since other places do it on property.
 

DisneyHead123

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Went a second time (refreshing really does work!). I can confirm that they serve fountain drinks, though you have to ask. They won’t serve the Treasure Trove (one of the two non-alcoholic drinks on the menu) without the so-called garnish, which consists of confectionary items served on a plate next to the drink itself. It’s a silly policy that means that those who don’t want—or, for dietary reasons, can’t have—the confectionery items are prevented from enjoying the drink.

A bigger issue we ran into is that they won’t sell you the skull mug unless you get it with the rum, even if you’re willing to pay full price for it. That’s absolutely bonkers and really exclusionary if you don’t drink or can’t drink. In the end, the server spoke to her manager and made an exception for me, but you shouldn’t be forced to plead your way out of purchasing alcohol, especially in a Disney theme park.
That’s a strange policy. I mean I assume if you were allergic to the food they would take it off the plate, so what’s the difference if you just don’t want it? Same with the drink - maybe they’re premade and sitting in a fridge, or maybe they want absolutely zero confusion since that mug would be appealing to kids (Aunt Jane orders a virgin cocktail and shares it with nephew, Uncle Joe sees that and assumes he can order the same drink right off the menu to share with nephew next time.) But none of that stops them from just dumping the drink out, wiping down the container and giving you an empty souvenir mug.
 

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