MK New Beak and Barrel - Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "a bit further" - I'm guessing a wider variety of drink options?
Just a full bar...that is it...to provide guests with more options and flexibility. I personally would like to soak in the ambiance and have a decent drink. Besides that, and my other opinion that I think the place should look "grimier", I am fine with it. Looks cool. If I had a trip planned to MK, I would try to visit. They did a good job.
 

lazyboy97o

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loosening of historical accuracy in exchange for a certain romanticized over-the-top quality (although the Pirates ride was never historically accurate, so maybe the question is really about IP and fantasy replacing areas that are detailed and historical - outside of AK, the historically / real world based areas are quickly disappearing)
Again, that is not the criticism.
 

DisneyHead123

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I think the argument is, why can’t one have a themed environment AND handmade drinks? It often seems to be either or with Disney — great atmosphere and okay food, or great food and just okay atmosphere. That’s all. I’m still excited to check it out.

You know how you’re at an ice cream store and the line is sailing along until that one person right in front of you orders three milkshakes, and you mentally start swearing as everything comes to a screeching halt? Premade is just so much faster when they’re trying to get people in and out.
 

wdwmagic

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I think the argument is, why can’t one have a themed environment AND handmade drinks? It often seems to be either or with Disney — great atmosphere and okay food, or great food and just okay atmosphere. That’s all. I’m still excited to check it out.
I think to get the ROI that they want, they need to turn tables quickly, and minimize costs. The way they have done it seems to fit the bill. The drinks seem like they will be more than acceptable for most. And lets face it, if you want really great hand made drinks, a theme park isn't really the place to do it.
 

Casper Gutman

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It is so odd this is being called a win. It’s being judged based on artificial constraints that are entirely of Disney’s own making.

It’s an immensely popular idea shoved into an area so inadequately small that it’s difficult to get reservations and has to impose a time limit on guests.

It’s a space designed to appeal to children with a menu overwhelmingly composed of alcoholic beverages.

It’s a bar that only serves premixed drinks.

The theming is thick but often contrived and artificial so that the backstory seems to be it was designed by a pirate with a passion for interior design and the ability to fabricate custom decorations.

The place embodies a lot of the worst tendencies that have plagued Disney for years.
 

lazyboy97o

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Did we not just have a long post about how awesome it is to “geek out” about history in the parks? And I appreciate that poster’s comments, btw, I was trying to see both sides here.
Authenticity and historical accuracy are not the same thing. The parks are full of authentic details that serve the function of building a fantastical world.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I think the argument is, why can’t one have a themed environment AND handmade drinks? It often seems to be either or with Disney — great atmosphere and okay food, or great food and just okay atmosphere. That’s all. I’m still excited to check it out.

I get that but at some point it is a tradeoff of giving as many people a really good experience at the expense of the quality of the drinks.

Is good that they have also recently opened Geo-82 whish is definitely focused on the craft of the drinks so that is an option for people putting a priority on that
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I think to get the ROI that they want, they need to turn tables quickly, and minimize costs. The way they have done it seems to fit the bill. The drinks seem like they will be more than acceptable for most. And lets face it, if you want really great hand made drinks, a theme park isn't really the place to do it.
I mean... Hog's Head. Bar Moonshine...it isn't unheard of.

But I guess they designed it in a way where this setup wasn't feasible?
 

doctornick

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Just a full bar...that is it...to provide guests with more options and flexibility. I personally would like to soak in the ambiance and have a decent drink. Besides that, and my other opinion that I think the place should look "grimier", I am fine with it. Looks cool. If I had a trip planned to MK, I would try to visit. They did a good job.

I mean that is fair enough and obviously different people have different preferences. For me, I don't really care about having a personally crafted beverage in this type of location; there are plenty of other spaces whether at WDW or in the world at large where I could do so. Honestly, I tend to be a "what looks good on the menu" type of person anyway when it comes to ordering drinks when out. I figure I can make whatever I like at home if I really wanted so trying something new/different is more interesting to me.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
It is so odd this is being called a win. It’s being judged based on artificial constraints that are entirely of Disney’s own making.

It’s an immensely popular idea shoved into an area so inadequately small that it’s difficult to get reservations and has to impose a time limit on guests.

It’s a space designed to appeal to children with a menu overwhelmingly composed of alcoholic beverages.

It’s a bar that only serves premixed drinks.

The theming is thick but often contrived and artificial so that the backstory seems to be it was designed by a pirate with a passion for interior design and the ability to fabricate custom decorations.

The place embodies a lot of the worst tendencies that have plagued Disney for years.
Honestly, you make good points. Whether or not someone agrees with this or not, its a decent argument IMO and I understand how you got there.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
"They can't provide custom drinks or soda because that makes it easier to shove you in and out as quick as possible."

...fun.
I have not experienced this place, but that would be a worry. If I feel like I am being rushed in and out, I would probably not enjoy myself. At this point, I will leave it up to others to share their experiences.
 

KDM31091

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For the prices Disney charges, it’s not crazy to think they could offer high quality drinks/ food and atmosphere. Both of those things. It shouldn’t always be one or the other. I’m no drink snob and I really think I’ll enjoy my experience. Just saying I do wish it wasn’t always a trade off.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I think to get the ROI that they want, they need to turn tables quickly, and minimize costs. The way they have done it seems to fit the bill. The drinks seem like they will be more than acceptable for most. And lets face it, if you want really great hand made drinks, a theme park isn't really the place to do it.
You nailed it…

…fit the bill.


(These things wouldn’t come up if they weren’t true 🤓)
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I have not experienced this place, but that would be a worry. If I feel like I am being rushed in and out, I would probably not enjoy myself. At this point, I will leave it up to others to share their experiences.
You haven’t “experienced” anything…and won’t because it’s a drink.

Gotta stop with that buzzword stuff…it’s how they separate your money from your reality
 

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