Yes, it's painful to see a superb area like the RoA go when underwhelming areas exist elsewhere.
And before they replaced Stitch or Laugh Floor or Tomorrowland Terrace. Or used any of the expansion space in the lands in more desperate need of new attractions.
Totally on board with this sentiment.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's an accurate resource for ridership numbers as compared to actual capacity, unless someone else can point me to it. But, my point is that replacing the Speedway with one E-ticket ride, or a couple of smaller attractions, would create more capacity for that piece of property. I fully realize that that is a very similar argument to the one that people make about TSI/ROA replacement, but ROA/TSI has been more integral to the theming and atmosphere of WDW than the Speedway has. If you look at the size of the area that Cars will be taking, and compare that to the size of the area that the Speedway takes up, it's almost the same (according to Google Earth measurements). Will the Speedway have the same capacity as the Cars attractions will provide? Doubtful. So, with all other things being equal, why not remove the attraction/area that has always been less of a factor in the overall theming and environment at WDW, and build there? They could even use Cars IP for the Speedway replacement if they wanted to.
Because it wouldn’t look a lot different to someone unfamiliar with the park.
The plan until late in the game was to build Villains, Coco, AND keep RoA. The idea that the Rivers had to go for Villains is not true.
The original blue sky showed Encanto, Coco and Villains beyond BTM, but honestly that could have been in the same space where Cars/Villains is going right now.
I find it more condescension than anything else…let’s face it, it’s VERY easy to sit behind a keyboard and spout whatever you want…we ALL make six figure salaries, we ALL own 10,000 shares of Disney stock…it’s a bit of narcissism too…I just take it with a shaker of salt from Tiana’s mine…
Every time we’ve been at MK, there’s always been a 20-30 minute wait at the LEAST, except for the night MK was open til 3am, and my DD rode EVERY ride that night…at midnight, it was a walkon
It was. Beyond BTM never meant going beyond the berm, it was always going into TSI. They just never said that and people assumed it wasn't going.
I don’t think that’s completely accurate. My understanding is that coco was definitely going “beyond” - but I don’t know if with that plan TSI (all or part) stayed.
I'm just curious if we compared concept art if the distances/perspectives between the attractions would reveal the intent or not. I'm of the mind that the plan was always to kill TSI. But it would be interesting to see if the concept art of old and the concept art of new positions the IPs in roughly the same place, showing one way or another if the goal was to scrap TSI. (which I think it was) Not definitive, but another clue maybe. Then again, it doesn't really matter cause it's a done deal now anyway.
Red - DestroyThe tag colors were talked about with both BTMRR and Muppets, but I don't remember what they mean.
Our trusted insider has indicated RoA was on and off the table many atimes for many years.
Yes and…. Disney very recently got a brand new boiler for the Liberty Belle - one would assume they ran numbers and decided to keep it operating before that kind of decision was made.
