News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
We were really hoping this one would just go away during the Covid Pause... Sad they cut attractions that were announced and budgets, but not this thing that will forever ruin the feel of Fort Wilderness.
Everytime they throw up one of these ill advised dvc towers…There’s a clear loser:

All the people who bought dvc.

They’re just overflowing the pool at this point…and have been for years.

It’s almost like this is terrible management🤔
 

wdw71fan

Well-Known Member
Tron was a pause fest during COVID, Pandora is almost 10 years old, , Galaxies edge is 6 years old, and Guardians is a single attraction... ALL of these were built and took away previously enjoyed experiences (varying mileage there)..

NOTHING IS ADDITIONAL (cept Tron I supposed), it's all replacements for other attractions.. Universal didn't tear down studios to build Epic, and they concurrently have been replacing attractions at Studios and IOA..

Disney has become complacent and lazy... Exactly what Walt set out to NEVER do.. Disney Parks are NOT 'too big to fail'.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Someone should ask Bob how their precognitive powers to build things a decade ago to counter Epic Universe today does not extend over to the studio side of things in terms of their stewardship of Star Wars, Marvel (post-Endgame), and the Disney Princess franchises.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Tron was a pause fest during COVID, Pandora is almost 10 years old, , Galaxies edge is 6 years old, and Guardians is a single attraction... ALL of these were built and took away previously enjoyed experiences (varying mileage there)..

NOTHING IS ADDITIONAL (cept Tron I supposed), it's all replacements for other attractions.. Universal didn't tear down studios to build Epic, and they concurrently have been replacing attractions at Studios and IOA..

Disney has become complacent and lazy... Exactly what Walt set out to NEVER do.. Disney Parks are NOT 'too big to fail'.
"Except TRON you suppose"??!

There's no need to *suppose* it was most definitely an addition.

As well as Ratatouille, which you forgot.

And the Sunset Studios show (Cars, and soon, Villains).

And it takes a lot of work and money to replace an attraction. That's not laziness nor complacency.

As Universal added new attractions in EU, they're leaving attractions in their other parks as empty as Stitch's Great Escape (Poseidon, Fear Factor, Sinbad, etc...). And they're also doing a lot of replacement, too, while not developing their shuttered spaces (F&F, Terminator, Shrek 4D, etc...).

IOW, Universal is doing what Disney is doing.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
Funny, I always thought the WDW version felt more thrilling, and I like the town in the middle. Feels like something Walt would have included.
I have always enjoyed the DL version more. The town is there but it's at the end. And I do like how The queue line gets to go into the middle of Big thunder and get surrounded by the attraction. Additionally I like the dark dark tunnel Just before Lift umber two.

And speaking of lift 2 there's also the famous, or infamous, "goat trick".

The turns always just felt a little bit sharper to me in California which I have assumed is because they had to squeeze it into a smaller footprint.
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
Tron was a pause fest during COVID, Pandora is almost 10 years old, , Galaxies edge is 6 years old, and Guardians is a single attraction... ALL of these were built and took away previously enjoyed experiences (varying mileage there)..

NOTHING IS ADDITIONAL (cept Tron I supposed), it's all replacements for other attractions.. Universal didn't tear down studios to build Epic, and they concurrently have been replacing attractions at Studios and IOA..

Disney has become complacent and lazy... Exactly what Walt set out to NEVER do.. Disney Parks are NOT 'too big to fail'.
Disney fans are luckier than they think they are when it comes to the whole “close an attraction to replace it rather than add.”

Universal is known for none of their attractions being safe. They have a long history of closing to replace. Disney does this very little in comparison.

I mean, USF only has one singular opening day attraction and the only thing standing between it and demolition is Steven Spielberg’s beating heart.

I get the frustration with replacing rather than adding, but it is important to zoom out in the theme park world a bit and see thar Disney doesn’t do this nearly as frequently as most of their peers do.
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
Disney’s Hollywood Studios has no opening day attractions.
As stated above, it wasn't like there was that many to start with. And I would also go so far as to say that while it is not an opening day attraction, Tower of Terror is the beating heart of the park and she remains.

USF is missing quite literally every attraction that once defined it.

But even zooming out, HS is not really the important park here. Magic Kingdom is. It still has a ton of its starters.
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
Out of all the cancelled Epcot Covid projects the Cherry Lane Mary Poppins takeover has me the most salty.

Someone needs to go ahead and revive this concept and give it a proper budget.Replace the proposed carousel idea with a busbar dark ride like was originally planned.

 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Out of all the cancelled Epcot Covid projects the Cherry Lane Mary Poppins takeover has me the most salty.

Someone needs to go ahead and revive this concept and give it a proper budget.Replace the proposed carousel idea with a busbar dark ride like was originally planned.



Yeah…the “cancellations” are hard to gauge…since most involve one sketch shown at Discon, nothing happens, and then people swear it was out of their hands to do anything…

The “greenlit” Brazil pavilion, Main Street theater and the Poppins thing all come to mind

They’re Sasquatches
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I do remember reading that when Disneyland opened in 1955, Mr. and Mrs. Knott from Knotts Berry Farm attended the opening and were pretty worried about Disneyland siphoning off their attendance, but they said when they returned to Knotts Berry farm, it was packed and they never looked back. I think it does work that Epic Universe could end up being a small bump for Disney’s attendance, as well.
So…yeah…

That’s the most extreme example of “crowd reinforcement” you can find

But it’s fairly common practice

Lowe’s is across the street from Home Depot…malls had 3 anchors that sold the same products in most cases

Electronics stores (when we had them)…next door

Target and Walmart…

Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s


Time honored tradition.

Orlando is a humid swamp…no coincidence all the competitors stuck themselves to I-4

Tale as old as time, Beast
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Well to be fair opening didn't have that many attractions to begin with.
The one unique event MGM had in the early 1990s was included in the park ticket. In the parking lot was a wrestling ring and guests that day were treated to wrestling. That’s a fake attraction in itself.
 

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