MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Disstevefan1]

After what happened at EPCOT, I can totally see an outcome where the rivers are removed and the land graded and the company runs out of steam/enthusaism/cash and we get a very elaborate walking path to Villajns Land (coming TBA)

"Scope cut" is a real thing and will be happing as costs rise beyond estimates.

Remember, attractions do NOT get MORE MONEY as needed like movies.

In Disney's theme park business, they only get the money they were budgeted to get, and when that runs out, attractions are "scope cut".

 

[Brer Oswald]

When do we think they will start draining and wall off RoA?

2027? 2028?

2025

 

[FettFan]

Odd, then, for the recent SXSW event to show Villains Land on a slide.

The Epcot festival plaza/pavilion/flying saucer mushroom building actually made it to modeling before being axed.

 

[Jedi14]

When do we think they will start draining and wall off RoA?

2027? 2028?

This year.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The Epcot festival plaza/pavilion/flying saucer mushroom building actually made it to modeling before being axed.

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“Modeling” isn’t a phase of design and there are elements in the parks where very late documentation was based on models. But yes, the wonder table was quite far along.

 

[monothingie]

Jim has been complaining a lot lately.

Yeah "Complaining"...

Maybe one day you'll reflect on your current perspective on things with regret.

 

[BrianLo]

The part that astonishes me the most is that Iger is 74 years old. I’m 12 years younger than him. How does he not, seem, to understand the Disney brand as it was intended by Walt…?!?!?!
I get the whole stockholder thing, but, dude, you’re either dumber than a stump Disney-wise, or you need to grow a spine and/or some bells, man.

Not to be obnoxious, but WDW in nearly any of your preferred formats is not really what Walt envisioned. At best Magic Kingdom is a concession and Epcot a wild pivot.

I’m not diminishing Walt, but he wasn’t designing the WDW you pine for. It’s Card Walker’s vision you are seeking, giving him more credit.

 

[monothingie]

Not to be obnoxious, but WDW in nearly any of your preferred formats is not really what Walt envisioned. At best Magic Kingdom is a concession and Epcot a wild pivot.

I’m not diminishing Walt, but he wasn’t designing the WDW you pine for. It’s Card Walker’s vision you are seeking, giving him more credit.

Walt was intimately involved with the development of the Magic Kingdom and surrounding resorts. He was hands on up to the time of his death with the project.

His vision for Epcot was radically changed, but that was 10+ years after his death, with the MK having been a unprecedented success, EPCOT built off of that, combined with Walt's original concept and developed in its own unique way.

 

[BrianLo]

Walt was intimately involved with the development of the Magic Kingdom and surrounding resorts. He was hands on up to the time of his death with the project.

His vision for Epcot was radically changed, but that was 10+ years after his death, with the MK having been a unprecedented success, EPCOT built off of that, combined with Walt's original concept and developed in its own unique way.

I’m not saying anything is bad or the incorrect decision. But the wildest pivot the company ever took was Epcot.

Revisionist history from the company itself has really mislead the branding of Florida. It’s a hollow platitude to Walt, but it’s decidedly not what he was excited for. Jumping forward even further decades and decades and asking what Walt envisioned is sort of beyond meaning.

Who knows, the guy absolutely loved transit, maybe he’d love the Cars franchise.

 

[JD80]

The Cars land will be Disney’s worst failure since Rocket Rods.

Someone bookmark this post if they think they can prove be wrong in 5 to 7 years when they attempt to open Cars land.

@mattpeto since you are keeping bookmarks.

 

[Agent H]

Yeah "Complaining"...

Maybe one day you'll reflect on your current perspective on things with regret.

I don’t know what it is you think I’m going to regret. I don’t like this specific project.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I’m sure all those who support removing the Rivers of America would also support the removal of the World Showcase Lagoon at Epcot, and Discovery River at DAK, right? It’s certainly underutilized space that could easily be made more productive with a couple E Tickets, right?

 

[monothingie]

I don’t know what it is you think I’m going to regret. I don’t like this specific project.

If your take is that Jim is complaining a lot recently, then your missing the point.

 

[Agent H]

If your take is that Jim is complaining a lot recently, then your missing the point.

Again what point? I agree with him. I’m just saying he’s been complaining a lot lately.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Anybody excited for the Cars attraction replacing the classic Rivers of America is not a true Disney fan.

I would say it's more about having a limited understanding of what makes something "Disney", the company's history and how individual components of the park come together to create a wholistic experience.

The people who created WDW didn't study Disney, they invented it through their own creativity, research into art, history and urban planning, while understanding that "Disney" was more about a philosophy and tone than specific iconography.

The self-referential circle we're stuck in now is the result of years of Disney fans only engaging with official company materials, not thinking beyond them and then having that generation be hired in a creative capacity to produce a limited output based on pre-determined synergy.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Walt was intimately involved with the development of the Magic Kingdom and surrounding resorts.

He had a general idea that there would be those things in that space, but nothing specific about MK was talked about until after he died. They just used then current Disneyland as a placeholder for master planning. EPCOT was the priority for him.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

He had a general idea that there would be those things in that space, but nothing specific about MK was talked about until after he died. They just used then current Disneyland as a placeholder for master planning. EPCOT was the priority for him.

And even what was planned for MK he had largely handed off to other only agreeing for there to be an MK b/c they needed the income from it to make Epcot possible - he didn't want to repeat what he already did in Disneyland

 

[Disney Rocks]

Walt had to be convinced to even include a theme park component in his Florida plans. All he wanted was his neo-feudalist company town in EPCOT.

If we're clutching pearls over the desecration of Magic Kingdom, it should be done on behalf of Roy, Joe Fowler, Marc Davis, John Hench, Marty Sklar, etc. Not really Walt.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Walt had to be convinced to even include a theme park component in his Florida plans. All he wanted was his neo-feudalist company town in EPCOT.

If we're clutching pearls over the desecration of Magic Kingdom, it should be done on behalf of Roy, Joe Fowler, Marc Davis, John Hench, Marty Sklar, etc. Not really Walt.

Yeah, and while this is not what I would elect to do I would have a much bigger issue if it was happening at Disneyland which is the original version vs the copy.

Personally think most things at WDW could go if deemed the best fit to move forward other than a handful of iconic/unique things to Florida

Only thing in MK really original/Walt involved with is Carousel of Progress which I hope never gets destroyed. Guess Country Bears to some extent (at least the planning of them)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If we're clutching pearls over the desecration of Magic Kingdom,

That’s not really the point anyone is making. All castle parks are following the design of Disneyland - the park Walt wanted.