DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[Agent H]

Once camp cretaceous became popular(animated kids show set in movie universe), Disney waved the white flag. Universal has an all ages franchise with content for every relevant age group. Disney doesn't feel it's worth the effort to try and compete there.

Not saying it's right, but i sorta get it.

If they were to revitalize dinoland they would have to build something that works within the existing storyline. something they are obviously not interested in doing.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Yeah, I know, I still have my Kron and Bruton Happy Meal toys.

But come on, everybody uses this as a justification, but for all intents and purposes Dinosaur the ride is completely independent from Dinosaur the movie. No one goes on Dinosaur because of the movie. Seeker isn't in the movie.

I think Indy, like Dinosaur, can be viewed as its own separate entity from the films. You don’t have to have seen the films to enjoy Indiana Jones Adventure. It’s an original story, in an original setting, that just uses a few characters. Disney was good at that in the 90s, making attractions that stand alone from their IP (see Splash, Tower, and Star Tours).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Taking any bets for charity that Disney won't follow through with Dinosaur to Indy.

Well…to be fair…it makes ZERO sense

Hey. I don’t make the surveys.

Neither does anyone impartial

I'll take that bet, Matt! You see my blog post yesterday?

It’s not like they have to tell the truth though

 

[FigmentFan82]

There is no practical reason for them to replace Dinosaur. It really stinks. They could have fixed it up. But instead they're replacing it with more freaking IP, of diminishing relevance, too. Times are rough.

But at least I'll get to ride my long-time favorite attraction one last time.

Meh, Dino never lived up to it's own expectation. A lesser experiential version of Alien Encounter where they rely on dark rooms with some flashing lights and sounds. With Indy there will actually be scenes to SEE inside of rolling around the corner into yet another pitch black room with nothing in it.

 

[mattpeto]

I'll take that bet, Matt! You see my blog post yesterday?#

Wrong intrepretation, poor choice of words by me!

There are plenty of people here that think that Disney will get cold feet and not follow through and change Dinosaur to Indy. They keep double-downing and so now I'm keeping bookmarks.

I'm willing to bet those naysayers.

Dinosaur to Indy is happening!

 

[Agent H]

Neither does anyone impartial

I’m confused. What are you trying to say here?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The practical reason for them to replace dinosaur is likely the AAs are at the end of their lifespan…

So you gut it…replace it with new stuff that they don’t have to develop (clone)…spend 3-5 years doing it…then slap a “new!!” And a fastpass charge on it for another 5

…it doesn’t get more “practical” than that for the house of “magic”

We just saw this in another park to the north/northeast

 

[HauntedPirate]

Hey, we got the Main Street Theater, too... oh wait...

(I don't doubt that Indy is coming to Dinosaur, for the record. Just pointing out that things can change up to the point of construction starting.)

 

[HauntedPirate]

I’m confused. What are you trying to say here?

Word is Disney surveys are often constructed/worded to obtain a predetermined result, usually to justify a decision or course of action that someone in management is pushing for.

 

[Agent H]

Word is Disney surveys are often constructed/worded to obtain a predetermined result, usually to justify a decision or course of action that someone in management is pushing for.

And how exactly do they this? Hmm?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Word is Disney surveys are often constructed/worded to obtain a predetermined result, usually to justify a decision or course of action that someone in management is pushing for.

“Often”? You’re being extremely kind

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And how exactly do they this? Hmm?

Actually they are the best private information gathering operation out there

Though they used to be better at it

They often have the results predetermined and steer you to the only landing spot…while embedding the actual focus they’re trying to get with bits and pieces of other questions

 

[HauntedPirate]

And how exactly do they this? Hmm?

Are you asking a legitimate question or just doubting what I wrote?

 

[DCBaker]

Aerial view of the Cementosaurus remains via bioreconstruct:

 

[wdwmagic]

Aerial view of the Cementosaurus remains via bioreconstruct:

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A surprisingly neat pile of rubble!

 

[Agent H]

Are you asking a legitimate question or just doubting what I wrote?

Legitimately asking.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Legitimately asking.

One way is to manipulate the wording used. For example:

"How you rate the value for the price you paid for Lightning Lane Premier Pass today?"

Excellent
Very good
Good
Just okay
Poor

(Disney does use that answer scale, I have screenshots)

Instantly, you have an 80% chance of what could be considered a "positive" answer. Then you get Josh on stage saying, "80% of guests have a positive opinion of Lightning Lane Premier Pass!", even though the aggregate number received was actually a 1.9 on a 5-point scale (totally making up numbers in that last sentence). With multi-choice answers, you can provide 90% positive responses and hide the negative 10% by mixing them in with the positive items to potentially manipulate what boxes get checked. If you want true opinions, you use unbiased language and provide a equal balance of answers, plus potentially a text box to provide additional feedback.

You can influence someone's mindset by using positive language early in a survey, then ask questions.

You can also manipulate who you survey. Do you want to survey the family that looks angry, stomping out of MK, or do you want to survey the family laughing with bags under their arms and smiling? They also send surveys that often close within 48 hours of a park visit, so they are trying to get people still on "the high" from a park visit, rather than 30-45 days later once the credit card bills hit, plus you've had time to reflect on things.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A misunderstanding has occurred. There was no promise that it’s exclusively expanded capacity. It’s capital investment of any sort, which obviously this is new capital investment. Even “new capital investment” is only 70%.

A further significant investment is not even really what you’d deem new at all, like the BTMM retrack. Thats still from another 30% sub-pot that’s more along the refurb pool.

“The Walt Disney Company is developing plans to accelerate and expand investment in its Parks, Experiences and Products segment to nearly double capital expenditures over the course of approximately 10 years to roughly $60 billion, including by investing in expanding and enhancing domestic and international parks and cruise line capacity.”

Oh I don’t think there’s any confusion there

“Investment”…and I’ll remind to trust ONLY the shovels…doesn’t mean “capacity” at all.

Unfortunately capacity is the only effective way to provide a solution for the “slide” we have seen in Orlando

But “investment” can be nothing but expensive maintenance…as splash and now CTX are getting.

 

[EagleScout610]

Aerial view of the Cementosaurus remains via bioreconstruct:

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Fossilized remains at this point

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Once camp cretaceous became popular(animated kids show set in movie universe), Disney waved the white flag. Universal has an all ages franchise with content for every relevant age group. Disney doesn't feel it's worth the effort to try and compete there.

Not saying it's right, but i sorta get it.

Yeah, we are definitely a Disney family but my kids like Camp Cretaceous. I had asked my younger (she's 10) which of the areas of the Universal Kids park they are building in TX she would be most interested and that is the one she gravitated to

Can see why Disney would see a ton of other IP is more attractive and more associated to their brand than anything dinosaur related