lazyboy97o
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But Walt Disney Studios Park was? Disney’s America was almost like a greatest hits of weird ideas he was fixated on.
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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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JD80
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Well we certainly are not going to know the operational and maintenance costs of the Rivers. Nor would we understand costs of environmental impacts and construction going beyond the railroad to build out more area to save this river.
So we can armchair engineer all we want, but there are realities beyond missing something pretty and using MSPaint to draw what we'd like to see instead.
So we can armchair engineer all we want, but there are realities beyond missing something pretty and using MSPaint to draw what we'd like to see instead.
TrainsOfDisney
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There are many solutions. I’m 100% confident there are multiple plans at WDI with several feasible options.
Disstevefan1
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We have no idea what MK's Cars land will look like until it opens as there will be changes/cost cuts as they develop it.
Grantwil93
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Thats very true. I personally enjoy trying to figure out what "might" work. I find it to be an interesting thought excersize
Grantwil93
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I mean, if it could save the river while still doing these projects, I might
I love Tom Sawyer island
TheMaxRebo
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I agree - I love armchair imagineering - just as long as we recognize we are working with incomplete information.
Disstevefan1
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We are in good company. Disney is also working with incomplete information.
TrainsOfDisney
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Including the fact we have no idea what they are actually planning to build. They didn’t even say what the 2nd attraction is…. Assuming it’s a basic flat ride.
Is the road rally the equivalent of 7 dwarves? Worse?
danlb_2000
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mickEblu
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To me it comes across as a D ticket experientially
with an E ticket scale. I’m not seeing a lot of potential dark ride scenes. Might get a quick show scene or two if they don’t get cut out of the budget. So what does that leave? A less thrilling version of Indy out in the open with minimal show scenes? An off roading version of Grizzly River Run with a show scene or two? I don’t think this attraction will be WOW’ing anyone. It just fits on top of the ROA. It’s there to maximize space and bring in $$$ with the IP. To improve traffic flow and get people to Villains Land. The National park/ wilderness angle is just the imagineers trying their best to mesh with the area formerly known as Frontierland while also shielding the remaining attractions like Mansion etc from the new attraction with trees. It’s a mess.
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JD80
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I agree, it's fun to think about alternative and take a turn about imagining what you'd like to see. I tell my clients all the time "I can do whatever you want me to do, all it cost is time and money". At some point cost outweighs achieving your imagination.
SamusAranX
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The whole freakin’ point of why MK and WDW was built and where it was built was the blessing of size.
You can’t tell me with a straight face that some the most talented engineers in the world can’t find a way to link up to the space surrounding magic kingdom to add Cars land.
They just want to add a “new” attraction with as little as investment possible. They continue to fail to learn and truly pivot…
You can’t tell me with a straight face that some the most talented engineers in the world can’t find a way to link up to the space surrounding magic kingdom to add Cars land.
They just want to add a “new” attraction with as little as investment possible. They continue to fail to learn and truly pivot…
JD80
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Second attraction:
Most people are guessing it's another Tomorrowland Speedway which likely means the old one would be on the chopping block at some point.
Agent H
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Interesting I assumed it was going to be a flat ride
TrainsOfDisney
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Ah! That’s probably a very good description based on the artwork.
mickEblu
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Agree. To add, it’s just what happens to fit on top of the thing they want to get rid of. It’s the ride that happens to be on the path to Villains Land. The thing people really want and the reason any of this is happening. People need to start viewing the Cars ride as just a bonus to Villains Land or they will most likely be disappointed.
TrainsOfDisney
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It’s not that simple…. I believe there was a plan to have coco, possibly Encanto, and Villians land - all in a space “beyond big thunder” - maybe that meant shortening the river California style - maybe not.
At some point - things got cut down.
James Alucobond
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Uh, do people think that? I thought the consensus was that it would be on the level of Junkyard Jamboree or Rollickin' Roadsters, but covered by the structure shown.
JackCH
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I imagine part of the justification was, "If we don't use the TSI space now, it'll be much harder to access and use in the future when we build Villains. But if we don't use the BBTMRR space now, we can always use it in the future." The idea being 1) this is cheaper, 2) maximizes space, and 3) saves an expansion plot for later.
I agree that is short cited, but I imagine that was part of the argument.