Prince-1
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He has always been a solid actor and it would be nice to see him win the Oscar for this role.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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He has always been a solid actor and it would be nice to see him win the Oscar for this role.
BrianLo
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Yes, the movie was declared flatlined 150 million ago and has been re-declared as such every week.
I’m actually not doing this to gloat, I’m just trying to help people understand that successful movies have tails and they are fairly underestimated. Diminishing returns, sure. But not usually “flat”. Movies that Flatline as Walter says usually declare as such by their weekend 2 epic drops. Accelerated diminishing returns become apparent to us, but that’s also not normal. Movies pick up spare change for ages.
We’ll probably land a good 200M-250M over when this movie was declared flatlined… and in this case, that’s a significant difference. One that makes the film not a miss but actually a modest success. There’s always over eagerness to write the obituary for some reason. Maybe I just enjoy seeing how far things go and predicting the endpoint more than most?
Whatever this movie earns this weekend it will likely do again by a factor of at least 2X more by the end of its run.
erasure fan1
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Doesn't this happen each time they start a new Superman movie series? I thought it happened with Snyders version and also Reeves version, I don't remember if there was anything with Routh, where the estate goes after them. I'm not sure it will have any affect at all since they want the movie to do well since it could mean a fat royalty check. I just don't see them (the estate) doing anything to really hinder the film.
Tony the Tigger
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Has anyone seen Presence? Looks to be right in my wheelhouse. Terrible ticket sales.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Problem here is it being filed so close to the release date. So this is more than just wanting some residuals from a single movie. This is about the future of the character itself. So the family of Shuster is willing to risk this upcoming film to ensure WB properly licenses the character for all future use. So yeah it could have an overall impact on this upcoming movie if the publicity is negative enough.
erasure fan1
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Sure it could, never say never. The quotes I've seen seem like they don't want to stop or even disturb the film, at least in my opinion. They just want proper licensing for some international markets. Of course WB says they are in the right, so we'll see how it plays out. I think if WB feels the movie could be hurt by this I'd bet they settle. There's just too much riding on this single film for the new DC universe. That's why I don't think it will cause any issues for the film.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yep, we'll see. But the timing is curious, you'd think if this was just about this single movie they would have filed the suit last year when filming started. So they are certainly doing this to force WBs hand into settling, rather than trying to drag this movie through the mud. Again its about the overall licensing of the character not a single movie in my opinion.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I read an article the other day that said this legal battle has been going on for many years already, they lost in the US courts last year so now they’re filing in the UK where the contract laws are different.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
This is “flatlining.” Or shall we say flight-lining? 
I have seen people in this thread say there really is not an Oscar’s bump anymore… well I just bought Sunday Matinee tickets for A Complete Unknown and except for the 2 tows in the front…it was nearly sold out… I bought the only 2 seats together available for us…. I was not expecting that considering the movie has been playing at our local theater since Christmas Day
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think she’s gently telling you not to be the gatekeeper, Vinz ClorthoI don't disagree, however the ToS does say this -
"However, it is not acceptable to use AI to create entire posts."
Which that poster has been called out before for doing, and not just by me but multiple posters. So if they or any other poster wants to use AI in the appropriate way, I have no issue with it, as stated in this thread I'm very familiar with it due my use of it in my daily tech life.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Are we still celebrating a break even as a “success” for the kitty movie?
…I’ll go now
…I’ll go now
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Thank you for your opinion but in this case you’re incorrect, so leave it alone.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Certainly better than those who were celebrating it as a failure not too long ago.
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
Found a 2025 box office prediction poll today, this is the average of all voters, curious if people here agree or disagree with the general consensus.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Since these are worldwide numbers, I disagree overall with most everything listed as below $500M. I think raise everything below that up a tier and that’ll be closer to where things settle.
Also why did you remove the video you posted along with it?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think you confuse “concern” for “celebration”
I think everyone wants a good movie…but when they attempt to “alter audience” to accept bad movies….yeah…not good for anyone
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I think you haven't been paying attention if you think there were at least a few who weren't celebrating when it opened soft and looking like it would lose money.
Also not sure what you mean "alter audience", but the term "bad movie" is subjective here. Mufasa by most audience metrics is not considered a "bad movie", but actually a good movie. So lets not get things twisted here.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well I don’t revel In flops…I bring it up hoping that someone will be brought in to fix it
Still hoping
As far as “alter audience” I think there ls a lot of evidence that they are somehow providing “less variety” as an after effect of opening trying to provide more?
Only Disney can pull that off
Disney Irish
Premium Member
And I think you confuse our little slice of the internet as having some effect on the overall status of things. We here have no impact on any changes in Hollywood, and certainly don't within TWDC. So you "bringing it up" is only being read by a couple dozen eyes at most, not the agents for change you think we are.
Not sure what "evidence" you're looking at but Hollywood is a business, one built on trends. Sometimes studios ride trends too far, sometimes not long enough. Disney is well known to ride some trends longer than others, but they have been mostly successful in doing it, so you can't fault them too much for something that has worked. Once it no longer works, well then they'll change course and move in a different direction. Outside of one single dismal year, they continue to be at the top of the heap, so they must be doing something right if movie goers continue to fork over money.
Also they provide variety, maybe not what you would like to see, but variety nonetheless. Its why they have different studio labels to release different things.