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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think you're seeing things that aren't really there.

But even if some person is using an AI program thing to communicate, who cares? It never read as weird to me, and I've been communicating with other humans online for three decades now. You'd think I would have noticed.
Again its not just me, others have noted the same thing.

As for whether someone should care, that is a personal decision. If you don't care then by all means have a discussion with the poster. But then the question is are you really have a discussion with a human or a computer, and if its a computer is it worth spending your time on a forum in that case? Also its against forum rules.

Also the whole point of the improved AI language models is so you don't notice its not a human. So unless you have worked with the technology, as I and others have, you wouldn't really know it was happening.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
It's not always the what, you know. Some people don't like having to read through a wall of condescension. Go figure.

I get that. That's why I do a lot of skimming. Sometimes I just skip over entire posts and move on to something better.

Or sometimes I just don't visit the thread. Hell, they're still talking about Tiana's Bayou Adventure over in the Disneyland forum, but I gave up on that thread once I realized what the end product was and how bad it turned out. At some point, my thoughts on the matter.... don't matter. And they won't make the ride any better or turn back time to 2020 and rethink the whole thing.
 
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LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I guess it's good we don't have overtly sexual content, or weird/gory topics, or suggestions of criminal behavior. Etc.

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said? Seems like a dumb way to go through life, constantly avoiding people who have different opinions and outlooks on life. Variety is the spice of life!
People don't (or shouldn't) report posts merely for expressing differences of opinion. They report them for being insulting, trolling, or inappropriate.

For what it's worth, I agree that it's dumb to go through life getting annoyed at others simply for holding different (as opposed to derogatory or hateful) opinions. The needless fuss made over Zegler's remarks about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Mackie's comments about Captain America are prime examples.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
People don't (or shouldn't) report posts merely for expressing differences of opinion. They report them for being insulting, trolling, or inappropriate.

Got it. This might be a generational thing. Back in the 1990's the online forums were a bit wilder and woolier than they are today. Now they've got software that doesn't even let you type swear words on forums. Or, my personal favorite on this website specifically, won't let you type out the name of the official dance of the great state of South Carolina. Because thousands of miles away in England it means something dirty, but here in the USA it's wholesome and fun, if not a bit hard to learn.

I'm talking about the dance, not the other thing. 🤣

For what it's worth, I agree that it's dumb to go through life getting annoyed at others simply for holding different (as opposed to derogatory or hateful) opinions. The needless fuss made over Zegler's remarks about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Mackie's comments about Captain America are prime examples.

Okay, but none of us here caused the fuss made by Miss Zegler, or most recently Mr. Mackie. This little backwater discussion forum of, at most, two dozen regular posters is not causing moments to go viral on TikTok and X and one Billion smartphones around the planet. We are merely... wait for it... discussing those real world situations on a discussion forum about that exact topic at hand (Disney movies).

Which made the accusation that some of us here were part of the global hate network all the more funny last year. :)
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I guess it's good we don't have overtly sexual content, or weird/gory topics, or suggestions of criminal behavior. Etc.

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said? Seems like a dumb way to go through life, constantly avoiding people who have different opinions and outlooks on life. Variety is the spice of life!
I had a response all typed up but deleted it, because it would have been reported and poofed because it would have hit too close to home for many people. DM me sometime if you want the gory details. 😂
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
Got it. This might be a generational thing. Back in the 1990's the online forums were a bit wilder and woolier than they are today. Now they've got software that doesn't even let you type swear words on forums. Or, my personal favorite on this website specifically, won't let you type out the name of the official dance of the great state of South Carolina. Because thousands of miles away in England it means something dirty, but here in the USA it's wholesome and fun, if not a bit hard to learn.

I'm talking about the dance, not the other thing. 🤣



Okay, but none of us here caused the fuss made by Miss Zegler, or most recently Mr. Mackie. This little backwater discussion forum of, at most, two dozen regular posters is not causing moments to go viral on TikTok and X and one Billion smartphones around the planet. We are merely... wait for it... discussing those real world situations on a discussion forum about that exact topic at hand (Disney movies).

Which made the accusation that some of us here were part of the global hate network all the more funny last year. :)
Good to hear a voice of reason. Solid take!
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
Got it. This might be a generational thing. Back in the 1990's the online forums were a bit wilder and woolier than they are today. Now they've got software that doesn't even let you type swear words on forums. Or, my personal favorite on this website specifically, won't let you type out the name of the official dance of the great state of South Carolina. Because thousands of miles away in England it means something dirty, but here in the USA it's wholesome and fun, if not a bit hard to learn.

I'm talking about the dance, not the other thing. 🤣



Okay, but none of us here caused the fuss made by Miss Zegler, or most recently Mr. Mackie. This little backwater discussion forum of, at most, two dozen regular posters is not causing moments to go viral on TikTok and X and one Billion smartphones around the planet. We are merely... wait for it... discussing those real world situations on a discussion forum about that exact topic at hand (Disney movies).

Which made the accusation that some of us here were part of the global hate network all the more funny last year. :)
The blame lies at the feet of a bunch of YouTube grifters. not anyone on this forum
 
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MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
I wonder that too, and its not like this is the first time this same poster has been called out for providing AI responses. Others, not just me, have called them out for it as well over the last couple years. They then go into hiding for awhile and then popup again a few weeks or months later trying it again. Its been a pattern I've noticed with this poster. I tried to call out one of their posters a week or so ago, but it got removed by the Mods.

The only thing I can figure is maybe its some programmer testing an AI program to see how well it can fool posters on a forum before getting caught, maybe to try to improve their AI language models. Real world testing is the only way to truly improve the AI responses.

Or maybe it isn’t the AI at all… Maybe it’s just a voice that doesn’t have to agree with your viewpoint and slightly upsets you.

It is rather interesting that this poster is always accused of being AI by some members of this group of 15, every time they don’t like an opinion. The pattern is quite evident… when they disagree with something, some members of the community do not attempt to counter the argument. Rather, they pivot to mocking and dismissiveness, instead of actually debating. I have been here for a long time and have seen it a lot with some posters. Such is life.
 
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Disney Irish

Premium Member
Or maybe it’s not AI at all… maybe it’s just a voice that doesn’t always align with your viewpoint, and that unsettles you a bit.

It’s interesting how this poster always seems to get targeted whenever certain members of this group of 15 don’t like their opinion. The pattern is pretty clear... once they disagree, some members don’t engage with the argument itself. Instead, they pivot to mocking and dismissiveness rather than having an actual discussion.

I've been here a long time, I've seen it a lot with certain posters. Is what it is.
This is the last post I'll respond to of yours.

I have no issue with any others viewpoints, in fact I encourage it. As different view points adds to the discourse of the forums. I'll interact and debate with anyone here on a wide array of topics and have for the better part of a decade as many can attest to. My posting history is here for everyone to see, and in my almost 20,000 posts over almost a decade, mocking is not something that is common in any of my posts. So this is not something you should throw around lightly just because you've been called out by multiple posters for providing AI responses in your posts. I just happen to be the latest who called you out for it.

At this point I suggest, and actually respectfully request, that you no longer respond to any of my posts in any thread on this site. Better to just not interact with each other and move on. Have a nice day.... :)
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
No, but many here eagerly threw themselves into the fuss, getting increasingly agitated over nothing more than a few harmless differences of opinion. As you yourself noted, it's a peculiar way to go through life.
It’s my fault—I brought it up and posted what I saw from X onto this site, wanting a reaction from the die-hards.

But... I have a new thought. Are today’s park prices possibly affecting people’s negative perception of Disney films?

From Fortune:
"Walt Disney World is charging up to $194 for admission—per person, per day, pre-tax—propelling a once-attainable family vacation into the realm of a luxury experience that many Americans can no longer afford.

Behold the Magic Kingdom's evolution from mass entertainment into a playground for the aspirationally wealthy. Fifty years ago, a family of four could visit for $262 in today’s dollars. Even as the park expanded throughout the decades, ticket prices remained relatively modest. In 1998, when Animal Kingdom roared to life, a family of four could still enjoy a peak-season day at the parks for less than $300 in today’s currency.

Fast forward to 2025, and the same family faces a staggering $766 pre-tax bill for four one-day peak-season tickets."


$766 is unreal—it’s become a luxury destination, and that shift could be why Disney faces resentment with its films.
Just a thought.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Or maybe it’s not AI at all… maybe it’s just a voice that doesn’t always align with your viewpoint, and that unsettles you a bit.

It’s interesting how this poster always seems to get targeted whenever certain members of this group of 15 don’t like their opinion. The pattern is pretty clear... once they disagree, some members don’t engage with the argument itself. Instead, they pivot to mocking and dismissiveness rather than having an actual discussion.

I've been here a long time, I've seen it a lot with certain posters. Is what it is.
No it’s pretty identifiable as AI. You’re kidding yourself if you think people can’t pick that up.

I don’t mind engaging with people - even if they are using AI in good faith - but I don’t believe that was how you were using it.

I would much rather hear the actual opinions of real people on this forum even if they are expressed in less than perfect form.
 

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