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[TP2000]

Total AI content.

Just curious - How does one detect AI-created posts with 100% accuracy? Is it a special ability, a super-premium feature, or some other way that we aren't aware of? And really, if you believe someone is posting AI-created posts, report the post. That's what the ToS state you should do.

I'm baffled too. Why would anyone go on a discussion board and then get a computer program to have their discussion for them?

That makes no sense. But then, I've been here for over 20 years and I'm still baffled that people actually have ignore lists or complain to some poor moderator to remove differing opinions. Honestly, what's the point of all that censorship? Don't like someone's opinion? Note it and move on. Or, and this is where it gets really good, refute the opinion you disagree with and include some facts and data that back up your own opinion!

Before you know it, people might be.... having a discussion on a discussion forum!

 

[CinematicFusion]

Which is the reason why I never reported them before. But because someone made a point to say it should be done, I'll start doing it. Maybe it'll help stop posters from doing it, well that is the hope anyways.

Here I'll help Irish...report this one:

You’re absolutely right and excellent point Disney Irish! Most people don’t consciously pick up on the nuance of wording in a 10 sec clip. They’re not sitting there breaking down “I” vs. “we”; they’re absorbing it through their own life perspective.

But that raises another question: is their subconscious reaction shaped by it?

A classic study by psychologists Tversky and Kahneman on the framing effect showed how wording impacts decisions. Participants were given a scenario about a disease outbreak expected to kill 600 people. They had to choose between two treatment options, framed either positively (lives saved) or negatively (lives lost):

Positive framing:

• “200 people will be saved.”

• “There is a 33% chance that all 600 people will be saved, and a 66% chance that no one will be saved.”

Negative framing:

• “400 people will die.”

• “There is a 33% chance that no one will die, and a 66% chance that all 600 will die.”

Even though the actual outcomes were identical, people overwhelmingly preferred the “saved” option in the positive framing and leaned toward the riskier choice in the negative framing. Their subconscious reaction was influenced by how the information was presented, even if they didn’t realize it.

Exactly how PR, advertising, and media framing work, people don’t consciously analyze every word, but how something is phrased affects their perception. That’s why soundbites and headlines are crafted so carefully. Whether intentional or not, it is of my opinion that the difference between “I” and “we” changes how a message is received, even if people aren’t actively thinking about it.

 

[LittleBuford]

Honestly, what's the point of all that censorship?

To prevent the discussion here descending even further into vitriol and trolling. Compare the forum to an unregulated comments section and then tell us which you prefer.

 

[Disney Irish]

Why would anyone go on a discussion board and then get a computer program to have their discussion for them?

I wonder that too, and its not like this is the first time this same poster has been called out for providing AI responses. Others, not just me, have called them out for it as well over the last couple years. They then go into hiding for awhile and then popup again a few weeks or months later trying it again. Its been a pattern I've noticed with this poster. I tried to call out one of their posters a week or so ago, but it got removed by the Mods.

The only thing I can figure is maybe its some programmer testing an AI program to see how well it can fool posters on a forum before getting caught, maybe to try to improve their AI language models. Real world testing is the only way to truly improve the AI responses.

 

[TP2000]

To prevent the discussion here descending even further into vitriol and trolling. Compare the forum to an unregulated comments section and then tell us which you prefer.

I guess it's good we don't have overtly sexual content, or weird/gory topics, or suggestions of criminal behavior. Etc.

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said? Seems like a dumb way to go through life, constantly avoiding people who have different opinions and outlooks on life. Variety is the spice of life!

 

[Agent H]

Yeah I don’t block any posters no matter how much I disagree with them

 

[TP2000]

I wonder that too, and its not like this is the first time this same poster has been called out for providing AI responses. Others, not just me, have called them out for it as well over the last couple years. They then go into hiding for awhile and then popup again a few weeks or months later trying it again. Its been a pattern I've noticed with this poster. I tried to call out one of their posters a week or so ago, but it got removed by the Mods.

The only thing I can figure is maybe its some programmer testing an AI program to see how well it can fool posters on a forum before getting caught, maybe to try to improve their AI language models. Real world testing is the only way to truly improve the AI responses.

I think you're seeing things that aren't really there.

But even if some person is using an AI program thing to communicate, who cares? It never read as weird to me, and I've been communicating with other humans online for three decades now. You'd think I would have noticed.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah I don’t block any posters no matter how much I disagree with them

I don't normally either, but at a certain point you just have to for your own sanity.

 

[brideck]

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said?

It's not always the what, you know. Some people don't like having to read through a wall of condescension. Go figure.

 

[Agent H]

Well I haven’t even been here a month yet we will see how I feel in a year

 

[Chi84]

Yeah I don’t block any posters no matter how much I disagree with them

You will. My bet is in this very thread

 

[Disney Irish]

I think you're seeing things that aren't really there.

But even if some person is using an AI program thing to communicate, who cares? It never read as weird to me, and I've been communicating with other humans online for three decades now. You'd think I would have noticed.

Again its not just me, others have noted the same thing.

As for whether someone should care, that is a personal decision. If you don't care then by all means have a discussion with the poster. But then the question is are you really have a discussion with a human or a computer, and if its a computer is it worth spending your time on a forum in that case? Also its against forum rules.

Also the whole point of the improved AI language models is so you don't notice its not a human. So unless you have worked with the technology, as I and others have, you wouldn't really know it was happening.

 

[TP2000]

It's not always the what, you know. Some people don't like having to read through a wall of condescension. Go figure.

I get that. That's why I do a lot of skimming. Sometimes I just skip over entire posts and move on to something better.

Or sometimes I just don't visit the thread. Hell, they're still talking about Tiana's Bayou Adventure over in the Disneyland forum, but I gave up on that thread once I realized what the end product was and how bad it turned out. At some point, my thoughts on the matter.... don't matter. And they won't make the ride any better or turn back time to 2020 and rethink the whole thing.

But honestly gang, I can't be the only one to miss our Buddy!?!

 

[LittleBuford]

I guess it's good we don't have overtly sexual content, or weird/gory topics, or suggestions of criminal behavior. Etc.

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said? Seems like a dumb way to go through life, constantly avoiding people who have different opinions and outlooks on life. Variety is the spice of life!

People don't (or shouldn't) report posts merely for expressing differences of opinion. They report them for being insulting, trolling, or inappropriate.

For what it's worth, I agree that it's dumb to go through life getting annoyed at others simply for holding different (as opposed to derogatory or hateful) opinions. The needless fuss made over Zegler's remarks about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Mackie's comments about Captain America are prime examples.

 

[brideck]

I find it hard to believe that you started a post with this:

I get that.

And then ended it with this:

But honestly gang, I can't be the only one to miss our Buddy!?!

Consistently talking about users who aren't here (and haven't been for quite some time) seems impossibly rude to me. But maybe I'm alone in that.

 

[Agent H]

You will. My bet is in this very thread

Nah if it happens it will be when yet another thread is taken over by the ride that shall not be named

 

[CinematicFusion]

It's not always the what, you know. Some people don't like having to read through a wall of condescension. Go figure.

agree 100%!

 

[TP2000]

People don't (or shouldn't) report posts merely for expressing differences of opinion. They report them for being insulting, trolling, or inappropriate.

Got it. This might be a generational thing. Back in the 1990's the online forums were a bit wilder and woolier than they are today. Now they've got software that doesn't even let you type swear words on forums. Or, my personal favorite on this website specifically, won't let you type out the name of the official dance of the great state of South Carolina. Because thousands of miles away in England it means something dirty, but here in the USA it's wholesome and fun, if not a bit hard to learn.

I'm talking about the dance, not the other thing.

For what it's worth, I agree that it's dumb to go through life getting annoyed at others simply for holding different (as opposed to derogatory or hateful) opinions. The needless fuss made over Zegler's remarks about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Mackie's comments about Captain America are prime examples.

Okay, but none of us here caused the fuss made by Miss Zegler, or most recently Mr. Mackie. This little backwater discussion forum of, at most, two dozen regular posters is not causing moments to go viral on TikTok and X and one Billion smartphones around the planet. We are merely... wait for it... discussing those real world situations on a discussion forum about that exact topic at hand (Disney movies).

Which made the accusation that some of us here were part of the global hate network all the more funny last year.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I guess it's good we don't have overtly sexual content, or weird/gory topics, or suggestions of criminal behavior. Etc.

But opinions that differ from yours? People are scared of that, or mad that it was said? Seems like a dumb way to go through life, constantly avoiding people who have different opinions and outlooks on life. Variety is the spice of life!

I had a response all typed up but deleted it, because it would have been reported and poofed because it would have hit too close to home for many people. DM me sometime if you want the gory details.

 

[CinematicFusion]

Got it. This might be a generational thing. Back in the 1990's the online forums were a bit wilder and woolier than they are today. Now they've got software that doesn't even let you type swear words on forums. Or, my personal favorite on this website specifically, won't let you type out the name of the official dance of the great state of South Carolina. Because thousands of miles away in England it means something dirty, but here in the USA it's wholesome and fun, if not a bit hard to learn.

I'm talking about the dance, not the other thing.



Okay, but none of us here caused the fuss made by Miss Zegler, or most recently Mr. Mackie. This little backwater discussion forum of, at most, two dozen regular posters is not causing moments to go viral on TikTok and X and one Billion smartphones around the planet. We are merely... wait for it... discussing those real world situations on a discussion forum about that exact topic at hand (Disney movies).

Which made the accusation that some of us here were part of the global hate network all the more funny last year.

Good to hear a voice of reason. Solid take!