JD80
Well-Known Member
It's telling that you don't engage with what I actually say.
It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.
It's telling that you don't engage with what I actually say.
Hopefully that includes the gift shops at the exit, make that area look less like a dead mallBy June 7.
Then we have no basis for discussion and you should feel free to ignore me rather then taking periodic, substanceless pot shots.It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.
Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.
That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.
This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.
I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.I've always been skeptical of Villains. Still am. Until they drop more concept deets I'll remain so.
Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.
That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.
This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.
I would to! Though it was never going to be the massive swath of land it deserved (and the fandom expected) anyway.I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.
I hope so. I hope it comes with a B&M invert as the star attractionVillains Land is happening.
Moving fast.
The pace should help shutdown the operational cost narrative, if it’s true.
I never doubted these projects were getting cut. The point some were making was they were closing Muppets early to save on operational costs. A lot of the Monsters Inc construction isn't near the theater.Never in doubt.
I support PizzaRoz.So how do we think they’re going to monsterify PizzeRizzo
I support PizzaRoz.
It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.
Given that the land’s TSR will no longer serve Italian (if it’s on theme), I’m sure the QSR will stick with bad pizza. If the pepperoni is blue, it will still be nasty pizza but somehow more charming.
Does it share a kitchen with Mama Melrose? Any chance that affects what it turns into as they might need similar types of food there?I support PizzaRoz.
It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.
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