lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Why are you gaslighting? You know the context.And they created DinoRama for it.
It didn't turn out to be *that* important from the beginning.
Why are you gaslighting? You know the context.And they created DinoRama for it.
It didn't turn out to be *that* important from the beginning.
You seem to have missed the context of what I was responding to.Why are you gaslighting? You know the context.
I never waited in it at 90I've gotten in line when it's said 45 and 60 minutes and it's been 20, last September was my most recent ride.
You also went during what has become a rather busy time of year. Was it an actual 90 minute wait or was that just what you saw as you walked by? Curious, not accusing.
Keep in mind the “imagined” animals had virtually no presence for the first decade of the park’s existence and really only came with the addition of Pandora (which is tenuous at best).The question isn’t about any park. It’s one specifically about animals, and not just living real animals. Past, present and imagined. Such an important concept that it was built into the entrance of the park.
Has it yeti come to pass?Keep in mind the “imagined” animals had virtually no presence for the first decade of the park’s existence and really only came with the addition of Pandora (which is tenuous at best).
Keep in mind the “imagined” animals had virtually no presence for the first decade of the park’s existence and really only came with the addition of Pandora (which is tenuous at best).
Definitely forgot about that one. Was too focused on the Beastly Kingdom of it allI think mythological/imagined animals gained true representation in the park in 2006 with the Yeti and Expedition Everest.
You hit the nail on the head with every single paragraph hereWhat really bums me out is how DINOSAUR becoming yet another Indy attraction adds to the homogenization of the parks.
When I first visited WDW in 2007, I was super excited for DINOSAUR. It ended up being one of the absolute highlights of my trip. I’ll never forget my first ride through, the absolute terror I felt being in the driver’s seat when the Carnosaur began to “chase” the vehicle from the left.
What made it special, and what separated WDW from DL where I grew up, is that things weren’t shared between parks. WDW didn’t have Indy, they had DINOSAUR. It felt special, unique. It was quite literally one of many exclusive attractions that made me want to go and visit WDW despite DL being a 20 minute drive from my parent’s place.
Sure, the upcoming Indy will have a “different” story than the one in DL but I wonder to myself: if it had always been Indy, if all the WDW attractions were just minor deviations from their DL counterparts, would I have felt as much need to visit back in ‘07? Probably not. “Bah, we have Indy here and there’s another in Tokyo” is what I’d probably have said.
And also a shame that a pretty big percentage of people here want them to homogenize if it means they can experience [X unique signature attraction from X park other than their local]. It reeks of both instant gratification (as opposed to booking a trip to any of the other resorts and being rewarded with that resort's own fresh spin on what a Disney park is...but apparently convenience will always out) and baby's first Imagineering pitchIt’s a shame, really, that many of the parks continue their slow march into generic, brand loyalty centers at the cost of their original identities.
It's probably because TA (assuming they'll open TA all at once) isn't opening until well over 2 years from now, so I guess there really isn't that much to show for now. I guess we'll learn more about the attraction once Dinosaur closes.I'm surprised we didn't get a blog post about Encanto today. They dropped details on Tiana, Musical Jamboree, ect... the day after their respective attractions went down.
I'm confused... aren't they diversifying this cycle? MK will now have a unique frontierland and an entire unique land. This Indy will not be a clone. Encanto will not be a clone. The whole land of Tropical Americas will not be a clone. Heck, Monsters Inc will not be a clone.Whereas Disneyland has a few unique headliners and smaller attractions to its advantage (like the Matterhorn and the original Indy), much of the MK's unique headliners (like Western River Expedition and Fire Mountain) have been cancelled, further stoking the perception that it's a worse version of Disneyland
So... they are actually NOT doing that for this recent set of additions, you just don't like the way they are doing it... So the complaint really isn't about homogenizing.(and no, removing the Rivers of America is not the only nor best way they could've tried to branch away from that).
And also a shame that a pretty big percentage of people here want them to homogenize if it means they can experience [X unique signature attraction from X park other than their local]. It reeks of both instant gratification (as opposed to booking a trip to any of the other resorts and being rewarded with that resort's own fresh spin on what a Disney park is...but apparently convenience will always out) and baby's first Imagineering pitch
I appreciate that perspective! Made me think about it a bit differently, genuinely. Still think this is a needed change though.
I see the removal of Dinoland USA as Disney conceding that they no longer have the creative ability to make some of the most popular and incredible creatures ever to walk the Earth work in their parks.
I guess just because they aren’t able to stick a (TM) towards the end of the species names? Or because there isn’t some upcoming movie or Disney+ show to tie them into?
Weak.
I was just looking through some of my old Dinoland photos. I know this picture isn’t great, but remember when the big dinosaur used to be yellow? Does anyone know why it was repainted green? I feel like I used to know but now I can’t remember
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For a small portion of the train?Or Disneyland!
I'd argue that keeping Dino-Rama for two decades is more embarrassing honestly. It's practically Disney throwing their hands up and saying that they don't know what to do with dinosaurs. So let's get some off the shelf rides and cheap carnival games. That'll surely be enough to satisfy kids that like dinos but are too small/scared to ride Dinosaur. It's the same principle as the current Figment ride. They know they could do better, they just don't care. Finally getting rid of Dino-Rama, even if it means pivoting away from Dinosaurs is definitely a step in the right direction.There are stupider moves Disney has made, but I think removing Dinoland is in the running for the most embarrassing. The entire land is dedicated to how much people love dinosaurs, who are seen as inherently cool. Half of it was a giant ode to how easy it is to make money off dinosaurs. Parts of it show off how much they permeate our culture and have for a very long time (the huge variety of knickknacks in Dinosaur Treasures and parts of Restaurant O'saurus). For two decades they have had characters confidently declare on the musical loop that everyone loves dinosaurs. Even Donald's Dino-Bash has that idea at its heart; everyone understands why Donald would be excited about being related to dinosaurs without further elaborating.
... Parts of it show off how much they permeate our culture and have for a very long time ...
I'd argue that keeping Dino-Rama for two decades is more embarrassing honestly. It's practically Disney throwing their hands up and saying that they don't know what to do with dinosaurs. So let's get some off the shelf rides and cheap carnival games. That'll surely be enough to satisfy kids that like dinos but are too small/scared to ride Dinosaur. It's the same principle as the current Figment ride. They know they could do better, they just don't care. Finally getting rid of Dino-Rama, even if it means pivoting away from Dinosaurs is definitely a step in the right direction.
Can you provide the link to the article?This bit reminds me of a Park Lore article about the history of Countdown to Extinction/DINOSAUR.
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The final paragraph, is the part I am referring to. If nothing else after the attraction is gone, there is some comfort in knowing Disney's version of the Carnotaurus was influential enough to leave an impact. One that will likely persist long after DINOSAUR is gone.
If you're a fan of the attraction, I'd give the 5 page article a read, it's a lot of fun. I liked learning about how they needed to "stretch the truth" a bit when it came to depicting a Carnotaurus because the real thing is smaller and more agile with hilariously short arms but both the required mechanics behind bringing it to life and the need for it to read as imposing necessitated an increase in creature size.
Can you provide the link to the article?
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