DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JackCH]

Baseline Taphouse and the Grand Avenue facades are staying. Can definitely see them combining Grand Avenue and Commissary Lane into one big avenue

If you view Commissary Lane as a bit of an extension of the Hollywood “hub” it works. Especially if they eventually make a land of some kind in the Star Tours area. Grand Avenue becomes a little hub into 3 lands.

They should put some hanging gardens or something in Commissary Lane so it is harder to see the studio “blocks” though.

 

[celluloid]

They will probably just make Sci fi dine in Mike Wasowzki's car themed and call it a day.

What would be a good transition is to keep Sci fi dine and have many ads for Hollywood B films on the wall as if old coming attractions and trailer posters. A few fake co concerned parent committee or something too and then closer to Monsteopolis it becomes the monsters are sillier and kinder ad payoff tje gsg by having a parental committee poster concerned about human Invasion films to the Monster world and the transition designed to work either entering from old Hollywood or back to it.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

They will probably just make Sci fi dine in Mike Wasowzki's car themed and call it a day.

What would be a good transition is to keep Sci fi dine and have many ads for Hollywood B films on the wall as if old coming attractions and trailer posters. A few fake co concerned parent committee or something too and then closer to Monsteopolis it becomes the monsters are sillier and kinder ad payoff tje gsg by having a parental committee poster concerned about human Invasion films to the Monster world and the transition designed to work either entering from old Hollywood or back to it.

I don’t think this will reach as far as Sci-Fi. I think it will only impact everything behind the new Ice Cold Hydraulics stand.

 

[celluloid]

I don’t think this will reach as far as Sci-Fi. I think it will only impact everything behind the new Ice Cold Hydraulics stand.

Likely, but the second idea would be a great transition with Old Hollywood sci fi leading ot a fantasy sci fi and actually create a hub cohesion.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Pretty sure it is the former, based off the concept art. I see some "monster cars" in the street outside but that's it.

It wouldn't really make sense to theme it outside that archway. Much easier to keep it in that space.

They'll probably just have it be part of Commissary Lane for now.

Here's a closer image of discussed section outside of grand Ave park..

Even tho the concept shows more vehicles..I doubt they will be there to help with crowd control and the schmucks who decide to sit on top of them ruining the theming...

 

[etc98]

Here's a closer image of discussed section outside of grand Ave park..

Even tho the concept shows more vehicles..I doubt they will be there to help with crowd control and the schmucks who decide to sit on top of them ruining the theming...

It’s interesting that the road leading to Galaxy’s Edge is a herringbone paver style in this art, when now it’s asphalt.

But the more I look at this art the weirder it becomes. The people are just splotches, the cars are very undetailed, but the light posts behind the car are very well defined, like it’s a sticker on top of the rest of the art. It’s like a big digital art collage. Very odd looking

 

[celluloid]

It’s interesting that the road leading to Galaxy’s Edge is a herringbone paver style in this art, when now it’s asphalt.

But the more I look at this art the weirder it becomes. The people are just splotches, the cars are very undetailed, but the light posts behind the car are very well defined, like it’s a sticker on top of the rest of the art. It’s like a big digital art collage. Very odd looking

It sort of is. A few semi rushed plans can overlay transperencies on top of it.

That is why Statler and Waldorf are still there.

The cart is before the horse again.

 

[GoofGoof]

It’s interesting that the road leading to Galaxy’s Edge is a herringbone paver style in this art, when now it’s asphalt.

But the more I look at this art the weirder it becomes. The people are just splotches, the cars are very undetailed, but the light posts behind the car are very well defined, like it’s a sticker on top of the rest of the art. It’s like a big digital art collage. Very odd looking

Yeah, I think it’s just art as opposed to a working design of the land. This is an artist’s interpretation of what Monstropolis will look like and since it’s an urban setting they want to give the feeling of streets in a city. I don’t expect to see any cars in the actual land. I think they are just a placeholder to depict that these are “roads” as opposed to asphalt paths in a theme park. In reality they will be paths in a theme park and the cars would mostly get in the way.

 

[celluloid]

Yeah, I think it’s just art as opposed to a working design of the land. This is an artist’s interpretation of what Monstropolis will look like and since it’s an urban setting they want to give the feeling of streets in a city. I don’t expect to see any cars in the actual land. I think they are just a placeholder to depict that these are “roads” as opposed to asphalt paths in a theme park. In reality they will be paths in a theme park and the cars would mostly get in the way.

Some cars will likely be there for sure as they are easy to do.

 

[celluloid]

Grand Avenue leading into Galaxy’s Edge is kinda narrow and can get crowded depending on time of day and time of year. I don’t think they would want to further restrict crowd flow there. Maybe somewhere further into Monsters Land. Once the gift shop building is knocked down there may be more space leading back to the main ride building.

It will be adequate.

 

[TheRealSkull]

Grand Avenue leading into Galaxy’s Edge is kinda narrow and can get crowded depending on time of day and time of year. I don’t think they would want to further restrict crowd flow there. Maybe somewhere further into Monsters Land. Once the gift shop building is knocked down there may be more space leading back to the main ride building.

If only there was a way to fix the dead end that will still be an issue once Monstropolis opens. Like once you hit the big show building, turn left, and back you are around Star Tours.

 

[President Loki]

There is a small alley between Star Tours show building and Pizza Rizzo/Store but it’s probably used for deliveries and backstage stuff. I can’t see them using it for guests. I think we are stuck with the dead end. I’m ok with that in this case but the park does have too many dead ends and bad flow. They really need to address that with AC redo and hopefully connect back to RockNMuppets Coaster area.

Or you could build a land connecting from Toy Story to RnRc, maybe like an Indiana Jones: Rome Expedition. Imagineeringland did a really cool ride idea for Indiana Jones, a water/EMV dark ride hybrid called Lost city of the gods I think, maybe a ride like that because to give DHS a water ride, and maybe an LPS flat ride like Luigi's in DCA. Maybe even a motorcycle launch coaster like Hagrids.

 

[celluloid]

No more coasters and pause on animated based attractions for DHS would be my simple basic edicts.

We have multiple animated world lands in one park and the Park's centerpiece E Ticket is based in entering an animated world.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

No more coasters and pause on animated based attractions for DHS would be my simple basic edicts.

We have multiple animated world lands in one park and the Park's centerpiece E Ticket is based in entering an animated world.

If Pixar movies Elio and Hoppers are hits, those could warrant attractions in Epcot then.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Keeping the area a dead-end is more proof this is a hasty, relatively cheap overlay with no planning for the parks larger needs.

 

[celluloid]

There is already a Star Wars Land there. There is a ban on most Marvel stuff with GoTG being the obvious exception but already built at EPCOT. Indy is going to DAK. TWDC seems very opposed to building non-IP based rides anymore. As a result of all of this I don’t see them pausing animated based attractions at DHS.

I would not be opposed to pausing the concept of entire lands based on one franchise (animated or not). I’d love to see them turn either AC or Echo Lake or both into more generic lands like Fantasy Land for DHS or a Super Hero land. I don’t need to be “transported to the world of the incredibles“ but an E ticket based on them would be cool. They could work in some of the lesser Marvel characters not covered under the Universal contract as well. I don’t want a Dr Strange land but a ride based on the franchise existing in a gereric Super hero land I would be good with. You could layer in flat rides, play areas, meet and greets, gift shops, stage shows or entertainment and unique dining as well. Maybe even the return of a parade.

I know that’s not how they build anymore but new lands based on a single IP with 1 main ride don’t move the needle on capacity the way a land with multiple smaller rides can.

They are going to have to make a variety of quality cinema if that is the case.

It is funny how they can't produce non Marvel/Star Wars live action hits anymore.

 

[celluloid]

I think they have enough material to choose from now it’s just a matter of deciding which to use and then most importantly executing on it. Splash Mountain was one of the best rides of all time based on a very average movie most people have never seen.

Splash was based on a movie many in comparison had never seen because of its ban by the time 30 years of it hit. But older definitely know it as famous. It re-released in theaters not long before the ride opened. It made a healthy box office and was popular as a reissue. It actually had more success than Lady and the Tramp at the box office that same year.
But even though controversial, Song of the South was very popular. The bans came after. To the point where it was easy to replace for many reasons including the fact it was no longer widely published by company. So it is a poor example.


Current leadership would never reach that deep again with the IP edict. They would more often than not rather exploit and have multiple attractions of the same 5 or 6 properties.

Nothing outside of Star Wars, Indy, Marvel Pixar, and Mickey itself is anything they have showed wanting to peruse. When a random post frozen hit happens they have already used it. Zootopia, and Moana. Inside out still not at WDW. Which means currently, the live action well in the parks is exploited well and kind of dried up.

They need some successful live action if we are going to get much beyond animated lands, attractions and Star Wars at DHS under their last decade of goals.

The point self stands.

 

[UNCgolf]

Song of the South was re-released and didn’t crack $20M or the top 50 in movies in 1986. Top Gun hit $175M as reference to the box office number range for that year. It was an average movie not wildly popular but the subject of a great theme park attraction. I am not suggesting Disney will make a ride based off of an “average” film again, but my point is the IP does not make or break the ride. There are more than enough animated IPs they haven’t fully utilized at WDW even if they ignore live action films. There’s no lack of material to pick from.

This an issue with the IP mandate that I think gets overlooked -- it's very unlikely management would be on board with a ride based on something like the Rescuers, even though it's a Disney IP (and one that was a pretty big hit at the time).

It almost certainly needs to be a recent IP (or one that is still moving a lot of merch and/or Disney+ streams), and one that they think will drive merchandise sales. Imagineers don't really have the freedom to design using ANY Disney IP.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This an issue with the IP mandate that I think gets overlooked -- it's very unlikely management would be on board with a ride based on something like the Rescuers, even though it's a Disney IP (and one that was a pretty big hit at the time).

It almost certainly needs to be a recent IP (or one that is still moving a lot of merch and/or Disney+ streams), and one that they think will drive merchandise sales. Imagineers don't really have the freedom to design using ANY Disney IP.

It’s better described as a franchise mandate.

 

[JackCH]

I agree 100%. I only brought up Splash to make the point that even if you view the IP as meh it’s still possible to build a great and entertaining ride based on it. Some people are just as luke warm on Zootopia or Incredibles or Moana or Frozen or Inside Out or any other IP which is relevant today with the prospect of sequels and merchandise sales. Any of those franchises could easily end up with a great ride (like Splash Mountain was).

Honestly don’t like Guardians of the Galaxy, but Cosmic Rewind is one of my favorite rides now. And I know many people who feel similar.